May 31, 2007
Carbon offsets are less like indulgences and more like tithes
John Oakley's column in the National Post relates carbon offsets to indulgences. I think he's on to something, but I think his analogy is off. Carbon offsets are less like indulgences and more like tithes paid to the Church of Green.
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Tithes/indulgences are good analogies. Those taxes were imposed because, you guessed it, "end times" were near. You won't be needing all that corn you harvested when Gabriel blows his trumpet, and you won't be getting into heaven if you keep acting like you want to keep what you earned, so we'll just help some of it off your hands, OK?
That's why Dalton's logo for the Drive Clean tax is a car with a halo over it.
Posted by: at May 31, 2007 09:20 PM (a0Sy/)
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As I posted, if you are feeling guilty, send me cash and I will grant you offsets (ia a metaphysical sort of way! lol
Cash only, don't want the gov't to expect a cut.
Posted by: Dave at May 31, 2007 10:20 PM (nEzv9)
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Be they indulgences or tithes is immaterial - although I do appreciate your research. Maybe some of those world travellers, particulary those who engage in eco-tourism, should keep information like this in mind:
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/262231/climbers_take_1100_pounds_of_trash.html
"In the last seven years, climbers from Japan and Nepal have completed five garbage-collecting excursions on Mt. Everest in a mission to clean up the world's tallest mountain.
According to Reuters, Ken Noguchi, a Japanese man, headed up the most recent cleanup campaign. On this most recent trip alone, Noguchi and his colleagues managed to bring down almost 1,100 lbs. of trash, left behind on the rocky terrain by generations of climbers. The group brought down garbage bags full of tin containers, tents, food scraps, medicine, and other assorted rubbish."
So where is the cliimbers' concern for the environment?
Posted by: Gabby in QC at May 31, 2007 11:49 PM (CBHIo)
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Carbon offsets are giant money making scams period, end of story.
The green machine is all about the bucks and how much can be sucked from unwary suckers, it's the latest socialist money-making scheme.
Posted by: Libby at June 01, 2007 03:01 PM (pJbdR)
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Steve,
My days of studying mediaeval history are well behind me, and I may not be remembering correctly, but wasn't a tithe a certain fraction of one's wealth or income? My faint recollection is that it was set equal to one-tenth of income. As such, a tithe would look most like a proportional tax.
Given the likely structure of the carbon tax, ie. based on emissions associated with the product, not the consumer's income, it is more likely that it will be a regressive tax. That is, it will take a larger percentage of a poor person's income than it will from a wealthier person. Alternatively, it will deprive poorer people of certain commodities and may even restrict their access to some important commodities, for example, because of the transport emissions associated with importing fresh vegetables.
We all know that all greenies, even the Goracle, also have well-developed social consciences. So... will they be recommending new social programs to "re-distribute" the carbon tithing or perhaps an income-tiered or "progressive" tithe to alleviate the suffering of the not-so-fortunate?
Posted by: felis corpulentis at June 01, 2007 04:35 PM (edu1y)
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Believe your onto the plan there,"felis corpulentis", sounds like the plan.
It's always about having all the little Socialist elves, gainfully employed looking after the less fortunate, one for you, two for us to serve you better of course.
Posted by: Libby at June 01, 2007 06:16 PM (gSnS7)
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Tithes to the greenies? F**k no!
Posted by: Dana at June 01, 2007 10:43 PM (iNA2U)
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Posted by: Nike GS at December 03, 2012 08:40 AM (h/AOu)
May 30, 2007
Stephane Dion is heckled at a labour rally
Stephane Dion addresses a labour rally, quite possibly for the last time. The boos and catcalls are easily picked up by the cameras recording the appearance.
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Because we all know that anti-scab laws help increase productivity and save jobs.
Sad thing for Dion is he's on their side. Sad thing for Canada if he even gets a minority.
Posted by: langmann at May 30, 2007 07:17 PM (T5C+J)
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*shudder*
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 30, 2007 08:40 PM (6YPVA)
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The libs must be getting dizzy from there downward spiral into irrelevance.
Posted by: missing link at May 30, 2007 08:55 PM (575sH)
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Nearly all of the people who went
up from Windsor were full time CAW
operatives from the dying autoplants.
Committeemen. 'Activists.'
So this was a case of the doomed
heckling the damned. But hey,
it's all pensionable time -- for
both sides. No real people in
attendance, so no harm done, eh?
Posted by: owl at May 30, 2007 09:31 PM (8Jp0q)
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If their are so many job losses, why is the unemployment rate down and the economy growing so fast (in the Bank of Canada's words) that they will need to increase interest rates?
There are jobs for those individuals who can adapt. For those who can't, and insist that their jobs are the only ones that count, tough. As they say, adapt or die.
Posted by: TorontoCrawler at May 30, 2007 09:53 PM (euwPB)
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"Adapt or Die" that just goes for the dumb sap losers in the Private Sector, but for the Civil "servants" it's cushy jobs, endless paydays, as usual, guranteed pensions, all just for "screwing the pooch". But you really want to get into the RCMP. They're allowed to steal.
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 30, 2007 10:04 PM (GN3Xe)
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Perhaps some of those folks that are picketing the railroads that they build and service will stop picketing other businesses for example I am shore the Container people are not going to start building and servicing the rail lines. And the ones who do should have nothing to do with the container businesses either !
Posted by: Nicklan at May 30, 2007 10:18 PM (EffSF)
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I wonder if Dion deliberately went out looking to get booed by the unions. This is the first time since becoming leader that Dion looks like a moderate.
Posted by: pete e at May 31, 2007 03:27 AM (/6Bmc)
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Here's the deal:
If the Globe, the right blogosphere, the moderate Liberals and CTV talk this up -- big win for Dion.
If the Star, left blogosphere, CUPE and CAW run with this -- big loss for Dion.
So far, the Blogging Tories have called this one stunningly wrong.
Posted by: pete e at May 31, 2007 03:40 AM (/6Bmc)
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These politicians should be very glad, that the cost of a POSTAGE STAMP, is less than that of a .30-06 Rifle Cartridge...or else citizens may use another way of sending their messages to Ottawa.
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 31, 2007 06:59 AM (7PFIn)
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Careful there friend. That's probably occurred to them (do you really think they're spending 2 billion of our tax dollars to know the location of every last single-shot .22 rifle in the country because they actually care about public safety?).
A remark like that -even in jest- just gives them an excuse to come and take them.
Posted by: up north at May 31, 2007 09:48 AM (dmLg7)
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Yeah - Dion should remember to only speak to friendly partisan crowds where their is guaranteed to be a uniformity of opinion and debate and analysis are not welcome. That's the real meaning of democracy, CPC style.
Posted by: canadian_2 at May 31, 2007 10:02 AM (tos+u)
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Dion was booed because nobody understood his English and they were expressing their rejection of his incompetence as a leader.
Posted by: at May 31, 2007 10:43 AM (rusya)
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Do any here honestly believe Stephen Harper wouldn't have gotten booed, by the same crowd?
Posted by: Fergy at May 31, 2007 11:21 AM (AZY5P)
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canadian_2,
Precisely what friendly, partisan crowds are you referring to ? The press gallery ? The CBC ? They may be partisan, but they're sure as hell not friendly (to Conservatives).
Mr. Harper would have to restrict his speeches to Alberta if he only wanted to talk to conservatives.
Even here, on this conservative site, he wouldn't get a pass because you're allowed to be here with your "analysis".
Given the Liberal's (and NDP for that matter) long-standing admiration of every communist dictator from Stalin to Chavez I wouldn't get too hysterical about the CPC's version of democracy.
Posted by: up north at May 31, 2007 11:38 AM (zouBw)
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in reply to Fergie:
Of course they would. That's why he didn't go there and attempt to pander to them like Mr. Dion. Buzz Hargrove endorsed the Liberals last election...the people in fact who are booing him now.
Posted by: northbaytrapper at May 31, 2007 12:06 PM (8jv8g)
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Yes, It's all about pandering and the Liberals will kiss any butt that presents for a photo-op and chance to grandstand.
Sometimes it works, this time it back-fired.
Coming from the boorish lot comprising the Labor movement we can't take too much from it.
Doubt they understood a bloody word Steffi said either and it was of no importance to them.
Suffice to say Harper knows better and he isn't so desperate to waste time on boors who, much like the Natives, can't be satisfied.
Posted by: Libby at May 31, 2007 12:18 PM (Gok4a)
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That was my point.
Posted by: Fergy at May 31, 2007 01:00 PM (AZY5P)
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I think, as an alternative view that they are boo-ing him because they are very unhappy that the only party that is left that is supposed to 'speak' for the big labour unions is suddenly more un-sympathetic than they hoped. They have all but given-up on the NDP, and the Libs are their last hope.
So the Libs have lost another very large voting block, and the NDP lost them in the last election....
.......and guess who is against harsh measures regarding kyoto targets?.....
looks like another bunch of future conservative supporters to me.....
Posted by: arctic_front at June 02, 2007 01:41 AM (mkBkk)
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Funny, Cherniak coudn't have heard about all the booing- he never mentioned a word in any of his lieberal blogs, or possibly he too did not understand Dion's butchered English
Posted by: lorne millar at June 03, 2007 08:11 PM (fFTs3)
Discrimination aimed at women by gay males?
Discrimination against women from gay males horrified by the sight of a woman drinking in their presence. Yeah, it's as stupid as it sounds.
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Are they worried they may be attracted and confuse themselves?
Posted by: Libby at May 30, 2007 04:16 PM (GEYno)
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Just this week an Australian human rights tribunal said this practice was alright. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be surprised to see the same thing happen here.
Posted by: Natedawg at May 30, 2007 05:22 PM (yNuoi)
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I'm waiting for the SOWs to stampede to woman's defense.
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 30, 2007 05:44 PM (6YPVA)
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You have been up north for too long, the Stud allows women on wednesday nights . many gay bars have ladie's nights. I do not agree with a woman being refused simply because of gender to me that would be like refusing blacks, but many gays are not comfortable around women, as many figure they can make them become heterosexuals, like Macho males thinking that they can change lesbians into nimphets, their problem being that they have not met a REAL MAN.
Even if I don't agree, I maintain that these people are on their turf.
In MALE NUDE DANCER BARS a man cannot go in unless escorted by a woman, so what is the difference ?
Get your story STRAIGHT (no play on words )
Posted by: at May 30, 2007 06:34 PM (2W56G)
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She's wasting her time with the Humna Rights Commission because we already know how stacked it is with bitter angry Leftists out for revenge to all past wrongs, plus awarding large settlements to oppressed minorities is all part of affirmation to the victimhood mind set that keep the HRC in business merely by the self interests of Lawyers and HRC workers relying on inner hatred to harm anyone that doesn't fit into thier version of reality and Human Rights.
Posted by: Roger at May 30, 2007 06:36 PM (Fj0xt)
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Even if I don't agree, I maintain that these people are on their turf.
What about white turf (blacks not allowed)? Or Christian turf (Jews not allowed)? Or straight turf (gays not allowed)?
Marriage used to be straight turf...
Posted by: Steve Janke at May 30, 2007 06:57 PM (LsEDP)
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Both BC and Alberta have women only gyms and workout places. The BC human "rights" commission said it was OKAY. The “decision” was a PC farce; but it stands.
Needless to say, there are NO men only gyms and workout places; those that are not women only are mixed.
So, do not expect anything from the human “rights” commission – they are nothing more or less than arbitrary, left-wing wackado PC kangaroo courts. They exist to protect specified “victim” groups, or members of these special interest groups.
Posted by: at May 30, 2007 07:21 PM (7aTRO)
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You have been up north for too long, the Stud allows women on wednesday nights . many gay bars have ladie's nights. I do not agree with a woman being refused simply because of gender to me that would be like refusing blacks, but many gays are not comfortable around women, as many figure they can make them become heterosexuals, like Macho males thinking that they can change lesbians into nimphets, their problem being that they have not met a REAL MAN.
The poor boys have to put up with boorish behaviour in a bar. I'll just go get my violin.
Even if I don't agree, I maintain that these people are on their turf.
Equivocate much?
In MALE NUDE DANCER BARS a man cannot go in unless escorted by a woman, so what is the difference?
The difference is someone needs to register a complaint.
Get your story STRAIGHT (no play on words )
Holy non-sequitur Batman.
Posted by: Eric-Vancouver at May 30, 2007 08:03 PM (wAU9K)
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Hi -
Read you a lot - appreciate the dispassionate comments about principle, but do not appreciate when these comments randomly verge into some kind of arbitrary moral judgement.
"And there is nothing more absurd than watching homosexuals demand equal rights -- you know what they mean by "equal".
Nothing more absurd than someone arguing to be treated with equality? Really? Wow - so much for live and let live.
The bar did a stupid thing. Most gays would say the same thing.
"what do 'THEY' mean by equal anyway?"
"They," huh? I think WE all want the same things.
Posted by: j at May 30, 2007 08:40 PM (ter6C)
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Well, now the politically correct (PC) movement is evolving from bashing the hetro/white/male to bashing each other in a race for PC dominance.
Since we (hetro/white/male) are now second class citizens (oh yes, we are!) the other "disenfranchised" groups now must duke it out to see who will take the "PC top spot".
My advice? Bet on the black/disabled/lesbian...for the win.
Posted by: at May 30, 2007 09:37 PM (tjjcl)
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Would they boot me? I'm TRISEXUAL...but I draw the line at GOATS....
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 30, 2007 09:56 PM (GN3Xe)
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It is probably better to take your business somewhere else to another nightclub or bar instead of these bars.
Posted by: Crazydan at May 30, 2007 11:27 PM (KqXMA)
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I've said it before, and I'll say it again...when you hear somebody screaming for their rights, check your own.
Who screams louder about discrimination than the gay lobby? Who's the first to discriminate when it suits them? The gay lobby.
Posted by: Mambo Bananapatch at May 31, 2007 09:14 AM (MIsXG)
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Oh yes, the Gay Lobby --- is that next to the Straight Vestibule?
Posted by: j at May 31, 2007 12:11 PM (fpnyF)
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Steve tell us about the gay bars you go to
Posted by: Home-boy at May 31, 2007 12:55 PM (fOnqd)
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So what about all the lesbian establishments that ban men throughout (not only) the western world? Is it ok if they do it? Nobody seems to question it. I have an entire hotel in my town refusing to accept men as guests.
And then of course the women-only gyms, women only days in public baths (recently ruled not discriminatory in Hannover, Germany) - what a joke.
To the author: yes, it does seem absurd. But certainly not more absurd than the whole "women only" thing.
Posted by: A. Ibrahim at May 31, 2007 09:35 PM (yAZ9J)
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I agree that her Human Rights Complaint will go nowhere for fear of upsetting the gay community. I mean, the police stopped raiding bath houses due to the same pressure.
BTW, is anyone aware of heterosexual bath houses in this country? Would they even be legal? I would doubt it. Is that fair?
Posted by: Sentinel at May 31, 2007 10:31 PM (y37BU)
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...it's nice to see the rooster coming home to roost.
Posted by: tomax7 at June 02, 2007 01:55 AM (jHhd0)
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I always find it delicious when one group - one which has whined and complained for decades about discrimination and demanded equal treatment under the law - turns around and expresses their gratitude for all the freedom our society has afforded them by discriminating against a member of another group (women) who have long been victims of discrimination.
If the irony were any sweeter I'd need an insulin shot.
Posted by: Tom at June 03, 2007 03:15 PM (JW99v)
Organic food and the bitter taste of success
Fans of organic food are bitter because the commercial success has attracted big business. But of course, they reserve their anger for big business. What about the organic food producer who was all too happy to sell out for a handsome profit?
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I wouldn't call most organic farmers around here hemp wearing hippies. In fact I'd guess that most hemp wearing hippies fail at organic farming. Farmers aren't stupid, if they see a chance to increase the return on investment, they will. Most of the farmers I know laugh at organic farming as an idealism. It's just not practical, nitrogen is nitrogen. A plant could care less if the fertilizer comes from a pile of e-coli laden cow manure or a bag. So whilst the city folk feel better about eating organic, the organic farmers are busy selling the brand and increase profits.
Posted by: the bear at May 30, 2007 01:41 PM (NIATg)
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Yuppie Chow, hilarious, I can't believe I've never heard that before, it explains this stupid fad beautifully.
Also, check out this podcast episode (with transcript):
http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4019
Posted by: Jonny_eh at May 30, 2007 03:09 PM (ZQ7AG)
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"Organic agriculture is by definition intertwined with environmentalism, resistance to corporate globalization and the 'back to the land' movement," she says.
TRANSLATION: The Marxist war on the free market in food production is not going as well as its self-appointed generals had hoped.
Only at a government-funded educational institution could someone get paid to argue like this. She seems to have a beef with privileged yuppies, yet she is the epitome of a privileged yuppie, and her students are privileged yuppie-puppies. If she's keen on the simple, earthy life she should give up her fat, subsidized paycheque, move to the countryside and teach readin' and 'rithmetic to the children of organic farmers for $25k/year. Small-scale farmers don't need a lot of social scientist professors to tell them how to plant corn dontcha know.
Nevertheless, under her leftist rhetoric, she is on to something: big business is successful only up to a certain point. They're successful at first because of economies of scale. These economies are largely the result of the division of labor, meaning, a larger company can hire more specialized employees who can do a more narrowly-defined job with far greater productivity than can a generalist who must learn several skills and who must repeatedly switch between different activities. This is why, for example, an organic farmer might sell out to a large agri-business - because the large company can pay highly trained specialists in the fields of R&D, accounting, marketing, transportation, and so on. This is why we have a great standard of living - because businesses got a lot bigger and more efficient in the last couple of hundred years.
But businesses can become too large. At some point the degree of specialization of employees, and the number of employees and the scale of its operations become so great that a business can lose touch with its customers. Inefficiencies creep into its operations which are not immediately detected. This is where free markets correct themselves - newer, small-scale entrepreneurs immediately detect the inefficiencies of the big businesses and start to make profits by satisfying the customers who couldn't find what they wanted on the shelves of Big Retail. That's why capitalism is great - producers and consumers always find the right balance. The key is that they have the freedom to adapt to each other's abilities and needs. They grow, they shrink, they seek cheap prices one day and high quality the next.
But here's a problem - what if a bunch of eggheads - say, some professors in marginal, rather useless fields such as "Social Sciences" [sic] and "[insert name of an aggrieved group of voters] Studies", started lobbying government to interfere in the free market. Government only works in one way - they expand the number of laws and regulations and expand the number of bureaucrats. In this environment, there is only one form of business which will succeed. It ain't people growing wheat on a 50-acre family farm. The only ones who will succeed will be businesses big enough to afford the lawyers, accountants, lobbyists and political (ahem) "donations" that it takes to get the government monkey off their back. And once they have this team of government-relations specialists in place, they can use them not only to survive, but to turn the power of government against their competitors. And who are their competitors? The small, niche businesses who can actually hear what the customers are telling them. Show me a big, bloated, unresponsive company with pissed-off customers and employees and I'll show you a company which has successfully lobbied to have its smarter, nimbler competitors crushed with regulations and disadvantageous tax laws.
Sorry I mis-typed. There are actually 2 types of successful businesses in the kind of environment advocated by Social Sciences professors. Huge conglomerates who keep the government in their pocket (or is it vice versa), and black marketeers/mobsters. Neither one of these groups is what you would call a pillar of society. Thank you, eggheads.
When leftist professors complain about the problems of big business they're utterly clueless as to why businesses are too big - that is, why their customers and employees are unsatisfied. They're too big because the leftists whined until government made them that way.
Posted by: at May 30, 2007 08:00 PM (a0Sy/)
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This is another proof that backs up the thesis of the book "The Rebel Sell".
Posted by: Jon at May 31, 2007 02:25 PM (909Qv)
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Just be thankful the Vegans here haven't hopped on the GW legislating Train like they have in the UK...Things are getting creepy in Jolly green England:
Brits Could Be Forced To Give Up Meat, Milk To Fight Global Warming
Climate hysteria reaches new heights after revelation that government is considering making population switch to vegan diet
Global warming hysteria has reached a new peak after it was revealed that the British government is considering forcing the population to give up meat and milk and adopt a vegan diet in the name of fighting climate change.
The move could spell the end of the very definition of British identity - the humble cup of tea along with the roast beef Sunday dinner - and represents the latest brazen effort to regulate and control every minute aspect of our lives under the banner of global warming.
http://aftermathnews.wordpress.com/tag/climate-change/
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at June 01, 2007 08:52 AM (INHn8)
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...ah, I love capitalism.
Posted by: tomax7 at June 02, 2007 01:56 AM (jHhd0)
May 29, 2007
NDP organized dinner to raise funds for group with alleged ties to Hamas
The NDP organized a fund-raiser for IRFAN, a registered charity, but one that has been alleged to have strong ties to Hamas. Those allegations have been known to the highest levels of the Canadian government, and widely reported in the press. But despite that, the NDP feels that helping raise thousands of dollars for this group is a worthy exercise, and MPs Alexa McDonough and Irene Mathyssen lent their presence to make sure as much money as possible is sent from Canada to this group.
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You seem surprised that these split assed NDPers are doing this. After all we all know that Taliban Jack and the NDP, along with Stephanie and the Lieberals, support these terrorists more than the Canadian and NATO forces.
Posted by: Pissedoff at May 29, 2007 12:05 PM (QhZhl)
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Clarification?
Hasn't this already happened? On March 24? The sourced Western NDP Website's update time is Mar 18 @11:15. If this is correct, what was the outcome. What words of wisdom did they share? Or did they share at all? Sometimes best to fly under the radar and collect quietly me thinks.
BTW Steve, keep posting, it brightens my day. :-)
Posted by: Phil at May 29, 2007 12:46 PM (xUjnI)
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No surprise here, it's typical NDP behavior. Taliban Jack and his jackasses have their knickers all knotted in concern for the Terrorist Taliban prisoners, blaming our Forces and our Defense Minister for SUPPOSED, unproven abuse.
Traditionally the Liberals and the NDP support Terrorist groups like the Tamil Tigers as well, it's all about votes, no principles needed. It's power at all costs including putting the people of the Country in danger.
If anyone wants to point and use the word scary, look Left.
Posted by: Libby at May 29, 2007 12:57 PM (HqRJD)
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I wouldn't go quite so far as to use the euphemistic endearments Dr.Layton has acquired during his tenure, but I think the NDP has and always will waste money on anything BUT Canadians. Which is why they are and will always be, the worst place for my vote.
Posted by: R. Alexander at May 29, 2007 04:05 PM (0Sdl6)
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Well, the Liberals in Opposition are a disgrace in the role of Official Opposition and even to themselves as a party. The NDP are playing their usual hug-a-thug, peace at all costs games.
Layton is much like a yipping Terrior, yapping on to no avail invoking nothing but the urge to yell quiet!
Ready or not, we need an election to give a distinct majority and the only real choice for that majority is the Harper Conservatives. Any party that cannot even be an effective and fair Opposition is not fit to govern.
Posted by: Libby at May 29, 2007 06:01 PM (bbihe)
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There is a large Muslim population in NDP MP Mathyssen's London-Fanshawe riding, and she is obviously campaigning in the mosque in London, Ontario. MP Donough is the flip side of Svend Robinson and his support for the Palestinians.
The NDP is obviously infiltrated by an extremist element that is working for the immediate unilateral withdrawal of Canadian troops from the UN Mission in Afghanistan.
Layton will whore himself and the NDP for anybody's vote, even the terrorists in our midst.
Posted by: Observer at May 29, 2007 06:47 PM (R6so0)
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AAAAAAHHHHH.....another cheese-dick organization that purports to help the needy, as the Directors get rich administrating a fund that only sits in the bank, collecting interest and perpetuating an income for those that pretend to administer the fund, like the Terry Fox Fund, the Cancer Society, Diabetes Society...you name it, they scam it. If you want to donate, give 10 bucks to someone on the street.
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 29, 2007 08:34 PM (GN3Xe)
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Tommy Douglas & David Lewis must be rolling over in their graves.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 29, 2007 09:38 PM (g7gYB)
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http://londoncommons.net/node/2518
Saving an Orphan
Submitted by Rob Hepburn on May 8, 2007 - 1:12pm. Fundraisers | Social
Start: May 11 2007 - 6:00pm
End: May 11 2007 - 9:30pm
Location:
German Canadian Club, 1 Cove Rd.
Description:
Saving an Orphan is a series of Fundraisers for Orphans around the
World. The first of this series will be for Orphans of Lebanon. This
event is made possible through the generous donations and
support of local sponsors and individual donations.
Our aim is to raise $10,000 through this event. We hope that each
and everyone can lend a hand in someway or another.
The will take place at the German Canadian Club on Friday May 11, 2007
at 6:00 pm.
By purchasing a ticket for yourself or as a gift to
someone, you will be supporting this event.
We're counting on your support!
Please mass email this poster to everyone you know and help spread the word.
We thank you in advanced for your support.
For tickets please call 519-777-2613
Kindest Regards,
Sunday School Teachers of the Islamic Center
& Community Members
....looks to me like there is a whack of fundraising going on for the orphans. So many ways to raise funds for terrorist here in Canada. I wonder if the powers that be are paying attention.
Sunday school teachers? Is it possible? This year the orphans of Lebanon. I would be hoping someone would be following that money trail so it doesn't end up in the hands of the Hezzassholes.
Posted by: Honey Pot at May 30, 2007 08:51 AM (xh1oT)
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Those orphans could very well be children of Hezzassholes.
There is no way we can know exactly how much of our money donated will actually get to those designated.
May as well call it Suckers Are Us, toss the booty to the wind if there is no way of following the money.
Posted by: Libby at May 30, 2007 10:08 AM (Yhd5p)
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What's for DIN-DIN? Pork Roast?
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 30, 2007 11:45 AM (7PFIn)
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Pork Roast for DIN-DIN? In the words of the late Elvis, "DON'T BE CRUEL". We couldn't chance them yielding to temptation which would be a sacrilege and a fate worse than starvation and death.
Posted by: Libby at May 30, 2007 02:13 PM (+6ref)
May 28, 2007
Shiraz Dossa blames Jews and Christian boys for the criticism aimed at him
Last year, the Iranian government hosted a conference roundly denounced by the West as Holocaust-denial gabfest. One Canadian attended, Shiraz Dossa, a professor from St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia. Drossa was condemned by people both within the university and across Canada. Dossa has now issued a defense.
The problem is that his defense seems to bring focus on his not-so-latent anti-Semitism.
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Hafta admit, Steve, you make a pretty good case for ending government funding of education.
Addlebrained fools whom no one would ever pay out of their own pockets to teach in million years, least of all at an allegedly Catholic school, could never exist except in institutions which have been overthrown and turned into Commons Tragedies with other people's money.
Posted by: at May 28, 2007 10:17 PM (a0Sy/)
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Unfortunately, St. Francis Xavier University isn't, anymore, a truly Catholic University. So-called "Multiculturalism" has had its way with a number of Catholic insitutions which are "Catholic" in name and ritual only.
I suspect that if St. F.X. had retained its true Catholic idenity, in spite of government aparatchiks' attempts at ramming "multiculturalism" down its throat, Shiraz Dossa would never have been hired.
Now the multiculural monster, which St. F.X. has embraced, has reared its ugly head and has turned on it, the usual chain of events when Dr. Frankenstein looses his creation/invention on humanity.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 29, 2007 06:37 AM (ZZ80V)
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Given the morass of socialism permeating our halls of higher learning it's no surprise these controversial 'characters', (in the real world), are given tenure. It gives them an opportunity to mess with and impress a few minds and spread their gospel of hatred.
In an earlier more sane time in our history they would have been ridden out on the rails if ever allowed in in the first place.
They do not fit with our way of life, never will. It makes no sense to be fighting against the terrorism that springs from extreme(?) Islamic views spawning this terror world wide and giving them voice in our Universities.
We have plenty of examples of troublesome meddlers,Professors Attaran and Elmasry come to mind.
God, are we stupid!!
Posted by: Libby at May 29, 2007 07:06 AM (Kc3t9)
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Actually, probably over 60% of the students at StFX are Catholic, I've regularly seen the university administration at Mass on Sunday, and it has still retained most of it's Catholic flavour. However, among a usually sterling faculty, Dossa is the one sore point who won't go away. Personally, I'm surprised the university is still letting him teach classes - he flunks anyone who disagrees with him, and the only major reason he hasn't been sacked is because he has tenure.
Posted by: Frank Cybulski at May 29, 2007 07:11 AM (PbOVc)
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The CAUT believes in academic freedom for anyone who abuses it by peddling left-wing views to young minds; for anyone who attacks any aspect of US policy; and for anyone who criticises Stephen Harper. Like the CBC and a host of other leftist-captured organisations that we are soaked for in taxes, the CAUT (though not tax-supported) toes the party line. Woe betide you if you express a right-wing view in academia these days. Woe betide you if you conduct objective research that results in data antithetical to received multicultural and rights wisdom.
Once upon a time the CAUT defended everyone. It is yet another victim of political correctness, that magnificent shield of the marxist would-be dictators among us.
Posted by: Patrick B at May 29, 2007 09:42 AM (YlBhF)
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...blah, blah, blah. And that whole "wiping Israel off the map" thing is just, well...but anti-semitism is a western phenomenon...and never mind the millions of dead jews from WW2, I'm trying to be an intellectual here!
And I don't even like the Trailer Park Boys.
Posted by: Wonder Woman at May 29, 2007 10:22 AM (bRllU)
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What you say, Frank Cybulski, is probably true, and I have connections at St. F.X. 60% of the student population, no doubt, is Catholic, and, yes, many of the faculty attend church regularly.
If, however, it was a genuine Catholic University, not one, like most of academia today (as mentioned by Patrick B.) which feels it has to toe the PC and multi-culti party line, Shiraz Dossa and other faculty would never have been hired.
Perhaps the biggest problem with universities like St. F.X. is that it appears to be so Catholic and yet, if you look closely, you can see any number of policies and practices which bely the beliefs of the Catholic Church.
Sad.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 29, 2007 03:54 PM (ZZ80V)
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And just to clarify: I think that St. F.X., in many ways is a great university. I wouldn't have minded if my children had chosen to go there, as it's not as bad as a whole lot of other post-secondary institutions.
I guess I just hold it to a higher standard, which I'm sorry to see it doens't hold itself to.
What were they THINKING when they hired Shiraz Dossa? Obviously, pc multiculturalism and the funds they could apply for because they are so "diverse," "open," and "tolerant."
This kind of "diversity," "openness," and "tolerance" is the wide road that leads to perdition...
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 29, 2007 06:11 PM (ZZ80V)
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1) The complaints against Dossa (a Muslim) were first raised by two Jews and a Christian. Its perfectly legitimate to point that out.
2) Dossa indeed admits that there were Holocaust deniers at the conference (about a half-dozen)and that it was important to see what kind of response they got.
3) Studying how the holocaust has been misused by Israel for propoganda purposes is a perfectly legitimate exercise. Probably an important one, since we have already seen 9-11 used by elements in the U.S. to justirfy an otherwise unjustifiable (and disastrous) war.
4) Rex Murphy is a content-free windbag. We all know that.
5) Plenty of Mr. Dossa's students rate him quite highly, although he ranks low on the "hotness" scale.
Posted by: bigcitylib at May 30, 2007 08:28 AM (zlkxG)
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"big city lib" -
"1) The complaints against Dossa (a Muslim) were first raised by two Jews and a Christian. Its perfectly legitimate to point that out."
why is it so "legitimate"? did they point out that Dossa was a Muslim?
"2) Dossa indeed admits that there were Holocaust deniers at the conference (about a half-dozen)and that it was important to see what kind of response they got."
Half-a-dozen, sure... and what does this "what kind of response they get" mean? They got the resopnse they wanted: they were welcomed in open arms.
"3) Studying how the holocaust has been misused by Israel for propoganda purposes is a perfectly legitimate exercise. Probably an important one, since we have already seen 9-11 used by elements in the U.S. to justirfy an otherwise unjustifiable (and disastrous) war."
The "occupation of the West Bank and Gaza" (never part of colonial Palestine) has been misused by Palestinian Arabs for their own propaganda purposes... even though Gaza is no longer "occupied"... (not to forget the Jenin "massacre" etc etc.)
"4) Rex Murphy is a content-free windbag. We all know that."
Just like, I dunno, bigcitylib maybe?
"5) Plenty of Mr. Dossa's students rate him quite highly, although he ranks low on the "hotness" scale."
I'm sure you think he's pretty hot.
Posted by: Roundhead at May 30, 2007 08:59 AM (DqpDx)
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bigclitylib: I notice that you've been all over the blogiverse on the subject of criticism of Israel getting one labelled an antisemite. It seems to be a passion of yours.
How then, do you feel about Dossa pulling the "Islamophobia" card?
Posted by: greenmamba at May 30, 2007 09:53 AM (1DpFH)
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I think this is a pretty obvious case of Islamophobia. If a white scholar had gone to Alabama, to a KKK rally, lets say, would there be objections to this? Well maybe, but a perfectly legitimate defense would be that its this guys job to study the stuff. Which is also Dossa's defense, and I see no reason to doubt him.
Posted by: bigcitylib at May 30, 2007 11:12 AM (zlkxG)
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OK bcl, so you feel that criticising Dossa - whose life's work is linking Israel to holocaust-usury - for attending this deliberately provocative conference hosted by the blighted Iranian leadership justifies the label, "Islamophobe."
BUT:
One may not be called an antisemite if one criticises Israel, even if one:
- believes the Jews have no right to a homeland (anti-Zionists)
- supports the antisemitic (would-be-Jew-annihilating) outfits Hamas & Hizb'allah
- criticises only Israel for actions many others freely do. (See Jenin vs. Nahr el-Bared for a current example of Israel being demonized and Lebanon being lauded for similar actions except that Israel was far more humane.)
Now we know.
Posted by: greenmamba at May 30, 2007 12:09 PM (1DpFH)
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"I think this is a pretty obvious case of Islamophobia..."
of course you do...
"If a white scholar had gone to Alabama, to a KKK rally, lets say, would there be objections to this?"
waaaaaaaaa?????????
Posted by: Roundhead at May 30, 2007 03:04 PM (QHJCi)
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bcl: "Plenty of Mr. Dossa's students rate him quite highly..."
and a whole lot of them don't.
Check out this link for Students Dissing Dossa:
http://www.dustmybroom.com/?p=5271
How about these ones?
* Dossa is very smart but he really is worthless as a prof and I think he would admit that; we were supposed to study Hobbes, Locke, Rousseau and the like but instead we watched the Daily Show and listened to him rail against all his various hatreds. Funny how he lives and collects a generous salary in the part of the world he ridicules for a living.
* DO NOT take this class. “Dr” Dossa (he’s very proud of his Ph.D) rants all day about George Bush. He does not teach you ANYTHING. I still do not know anything about political science. The exams and paper topics are ridiculous. There is no text book, etc. He marks SUPER hard. This was just an absoulutely awful experience. DON’T DO IT!
* HeÂ’s such a bad prof, heÂ’s a hate monger, and only teaches what he sees in the news. His rantings become tired and are vague, have nothing to do with anything and always end up about how every problem in the world is at the fault of the American People. Awful person, awful prof.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 30, 2007 05:11 PM (GKPZq)
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Does Dossa believe the Holocaust happened? Simply put, he does not.
This is an unvarnished lie.
Posted by: Dr.Dawg at May 31, 2007 09:01 AM (5RmVy)
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This Dossa guy...
Man talk about over the edge....
Posted by: Jon Mo at May 31, 2007 02:33 PM (909Qv)
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Shiraz Doss...modern day Sgt Schultz.
Posted by: tomax7 at June 02, 2007 10:49 PM (jHhd0)
Patricia Fresen's strange argument concerning the ordination of women priests
Can the Roman Catholic Church ignore the presence of ordained women priests? Actually she can, since the ordinations were illegitimate. And not because the people who secretly received the Sacrament of Orders were women. The problem with this sort of subterfuge is that the subterfuge is itself reason enough to declare the entire exercise invalid.
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"The Church is not likely to burn them. They would almost certainly be stripped of their position as bishops..."
steve... first, i think you'd have to believe they were telling the truth.
oh... did i mention i was secretly ordained on the weekend as well?
sorry... can't tell you who did it... it's a secret.
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Posted by: neo at May 28, 2007 04:22 PM (Zd/n7)
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Thanks for your post, Steve. Very well articulated and not based simply on "feeling," which obviously this ordination was: We FEEL the need for female clergy and bishops in the Roman Catholic Church, therefore that is what we WILL do: Ordain female clergy and bishops.
BTW, there are already legitimate and accepted married priests in the Catholic Church, who are under the jurisdiction of the Vatican and who recognize the authority of the Pope: Eastern Rite, and now an Anglican Use (AU) Rite (in the U.S.A.), etc.
I posted this a little while ago at Jack's Newswatch:
GIVE ME A BREAK!
Just because five people declare that they’ve been ordained as Catholic priests by “a female Catholic bishop” (huh?), probably in a United Church, which is actually the Untied Church (no longer tied to the Gospel), doesn’t mean that they are Catholic priests.
Just because I declare that IÂ’m the most beautiful woman in the land, because my husband says so, doesnÂ’t mean that I am.
These people are delusional fools, and make me increasingly convinced of the efficacy–and the necessity–of the Roman Catholic Magisterium. When everyone becomes their own Pope, insanity reigns.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 28, 2007 06:11 PM (PWhxm)
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Every now and then a wacko comes along that declare that he is Jesus. Then there are those who think that they are something they are not.
Thing is, when you are a catholic you follow the teaching of the Church. There are no options other than not being a catholic and you set up your own church of self or something.
Posted by: Bolshevik at May 28, 2007 10:10 PM (u4pS+)
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Hi Steve,
While I agree with the gist of your argument, I'd have to say that the Church's teaching that it is impossible for her to ordain women is the real issue here. While it should normally be the case that Apostolic Succession be passed on by those working in union with the universal Church, it is possible to have an ordination that is valid but not licit.
For instance, John Paul II excommunicated the late Archbishop Lefebre and a number of people that he ordained as Bishops back in 1988, as they were done against the expressed wishes of the Pope. While the act may have been illicit from the standpoint of Church law and a violation of the principle of unity amongst Catholics, the validity of those Bishop's Orders, of any priests that they have since ordained and the Sacraments that they may administer still stands, and would still be recognized by the Catholic Church. (Interestingly enough, recent statements from the commission in Rome that's dealing with this very issue stated that a Catholic can fullfil their Sunday obligation at one of these breakaway Churches without incurring sin or canonical penalty.) A similar thing can be said if a group of priests, bishops or even an entire Rite of Orthodox Christians who are in communion with Rome decided to break off, whether they aligned themselves with the Eastern Orthodox or kept to themselves. What makes or breaks the matter in the case of Patricia Fresen is the fact that her gender cancels out the slightest possibility of the validity of her orders, even if the Pope had ordained her himself. The Church concedes that since the ordination of women as priest and bishops was neither conferred nor sanctioned by Christ himself, that no number of Bishops, however elaborate their ceremony can make Patricia a bishop anymore than I can become a mother. Therefore, Apostolic Succession can not be passed on through a woman, even though a priest or bishop who breaks away from Rome still carries the power of their ordination, even when excommunicated.
The nature of Apostolic Succession is such that simply denying the authority of the Pope does not nullify it, otherwise all the priests and bishops of the Orthodox Church for the past 950 years would have been sham clerics whose sacraments carried no value. Among the Protestant Reformers, it was either through their outright denial of Apostolic Succession or radical changes to the rites of ordination that broke the chain of succession for their clergy. Patricia Fresen's self delusion or outright lie are that her actions make her a valid bishop who's simply challenging the Vatican's authority, rather than breaking away like the Protestant Reformers did. That said, without valid orders that are tied to Apostolic Succession, she cannot make Christ present in the Eucharist, ordain others, nor grant absolution for anyone's sins, whatever she may think about the matter.
With Regards,
Frank
Posted by: Frank at May 29, 2007 02:39 AM (LdV+w)
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As an ex Anglican first came female ordinations then homosexual marriages.
I'm guessing whoever wrote the St michaels rpt never read first Corinthians 6:9 etc, etc
1 Corinthians 6:9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals,[a] nor sodomites,
More here,
http://marginalizedactiondinosaur.net/?p=183
Posted by: DrWright at May 29, 2007 01:42 PM (tzmyN)
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Yeah, DrWright, I'm an ex-Anglican too, from generations of Anglicans going back to the 1700s, with some clerics among my ancestors.
The ACC (Anglican Church of Canada) has been going down the slippery slope for as long as I can remember, and seems not to understand that there are dire consequences for watering down the Church's rules for life. Not only is the integrity of the Biblical fabric of the Church damaged, lives are damaged too because of the ACC's recent cavalier attitude towards casual sex and sex outside of marriage.
In trying to be "with it" the ACC may find itself without a whole lot of parishioners who, with the upcoming Synod vote in June, which I suspect will affirm same-sex blessings, even if it doesn't go so far as to bless and allow same-sex "marriage," will be jumping ship either to "the Church of the wild wood" or another more faithful denomination.
From A Man for All Seasons: "For Wales, Richie, for Wales?"
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 30, 2007 06:56 AM (GKPZq)
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Steve asks: "Can the Roman Catholic Church ignore the presence of ordained women priests?"
Well, yes it can. There's always been a reason for male leaders in the church and that is because the worst sinners (the men) won't listen to women leaders. It's about as simple an issue as there is! Do any of these women priests seriously believe that the average whore-monger, alcoholic, and wife-beater is going to listen to what they have to say? Dang, if they're not going to be ignored - again!
Posted by: JJ Joseph at June 02, 2007 03:08 AM (ZoOtE)
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...here's a question for the RC's out there
- do you all believe the 'holy host' is still the literal body of Christ?
Posted by: tomax7 at June 02, 2007 10:51 PM (jHhd0)
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Tomax: if you're not an RC, who cares! Why don't you tell us what YOU believe, thereby helping us to get through life successfully.
Posted by: Layon de Lumber at June 03, 2007 02:00 AM (ZoOtE)
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Posted by: Nike T90 Laser iv at December 03, 2012 05:54 PM (RSvlU)
Cambridge police nab thieves thanks in part to a call from Angry in the Great White North
Real credit goes to Mrs Angry, who has an eye for detail, as well as superb night vision. I just called it in.
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Kudos to you and your wife. It behooves all of us to become more of aware of what goes on in our neighbourhoods.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 28, 2007 10:51 AM (g7gYB)
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Welcome to K-W-Cambridge Steve.... I understand the region is B&E/car prowing capital of Onterrible...say is there a Methadone/free needle exchange clinic near by you in Cambridge...this seems to go hand in hand with miggings, B&Es and car prowling.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at May 28, 2007 11:03 AM (INHn8)
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Good on you and your wife Steve. Well Done.
Posted by: northbaytrapper at May 28, 2007 11:12 AM (8jv8g)
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Good work, Steve. A lesser person would have simply closed the blinds and said 'They're gone, not my problem anymore.' If we are to regain any sense of community in our society and begin working towards solutions to what ails us, we must be willing to take responsibility for the well-being of our neighbours as well as our own.
Thanks for doing your part to improve your community's quality of life!
Posted by: Colin Carmichael at May 28, 2007 11:31 AM (eGtvb)
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Steve, Bravo Zulu
Colin, ditto
Posted by: Phil at May 28, 2007 11:41 AM (xUjnI)
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Good on you & the missus.. what's not so good is the little f*ckers will likely be back at it in no time flat.
Some years back we had an individual residing in our rural sub-division that habitually would B&E every home he could. He wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer and would usually get caught, be gone for awhile and return just to start again. We had a fan-out phone list that I was on the top of, and as soon as someone heard he was out again they'd call me and I'd start the fan out calls again. Without fail, and usually that very same day the B&E's would start again.
More than a few people were getting fed up with the endless cycle, and some were concerned about their safety as he was getting bolder and bolder, in one case walking into a house while a lady was bathing her toddler. Talk soon started about how he would be dealt with next time, and the RC's were not going to be called. In other words he was a good candidate for the "blanket" and a very long walk home from a very remote area. Perhaps it was coincidence but his father sold his house shortly after and he moved on.
Despite peoples concerns about the increasing danger this fellow posed, RCMP were doing all they legally could and their hands were tied. I heard the guys name a few years later, up on murder charges in the city. No one was really surprised, and I guess the only thing "good" one could say about this was that it sounded like he offed one of his own kind.
Posted by: The Hammer of Thor at May 28, 2007 11:49 AM (wZrZs)
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But...the art this guy was selling? Was it any good?
Posted by: Bruce at May 28, 2007 02:40 PM (aOxNf)
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How about moving in beside me and watching MY vehicles, Steve?
My tool truck has been robbed twice in less than a year right in my driveway.
The police here barely look up from their comp. monitors long enough to hand me a form to fill out. They dont even care!
Good Job, though.
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 28, 2007 02:45 PM (6YPVA)
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"I know this is too local for most of my readers to care much, but I thought it was neat story."
Actually, Steve, it isn't "too local." This is the wave of the future: Entitled kids feeling entitled to others' property. It's all too NOT local for comfort.
I do find that women have an eye for detail--and being moms, we tend to be more suspicious of loitering strangers. I don't know what this says about fathers' protectiveness, but I know that in my marriage, it's probably me who would have taken the interest in the bogus "Art salesman," not my hubby, as great a guy as he is.
Well-done, both of you. Real team work!
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 28, 2007 04:08 PM (PWhxm)
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ZiLLa - my truck was broken into at an Edmonton hotel last year, came in through the canopy, smashed the canopy window and jimmied the back slider. I'm not a vicious dog fan but I tell you thats one time I wished I'd had short tempered inbred Rottweiler (or reasonable facsimile) sleeping in the back or back seat..
Posted by: The Hammer of Thor at May 28, 2007 04:14 PM (wZrZs)
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Good for you and Mrs. Angry, Steve. Noting the "unusual" is what Neighbourhood Watch is all about. We as a community must be the eyes and ears for each other. Doing nothing is unacceptable.
Posted by: Anne in swON at May 28, 2007 10:36 PM (Kt22Z)
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Good Job!
I hope you neighbors appreciate your vigilance and will also keep an eye out.
This is what makes communities great...caring neighbors.
Posted by: at May 28, 2007 11:12 PM (jeo8t)
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You and your better half did your part, but those three offenders were back on the street the next day. Wanna bet the starving artist just moved down the block?
Posted by: john at May 30, 2007 06:50 PM (ZNAq7)
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...i love the line:
"The offenders were released from custody on Promise to Appears (with court dates)."
I promise, I promise!
Right.
Meanwhile victims are worried they might get a vicious 'sale offer' from the budding artists now that they know who squealed on them.
Posted by: tomax7 at June 02, 2007 02:01 AM (jHhd0)
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For what it's worth, my wife used to work in the Records Dept. at WRPD HQ. Although I'd have to check the stats for verification, I can pass on that out of the 3 cities covered by Waterloo Regional Police, she developed the impression that seemingly half of all 9-1-1 calls originate in Cambridge.
The moral is obvious: ya shoulda moved a little further North good sir! ;0)
P.S. Since I don't post much, but since I am today, I'll use the opportunity to say I really enjoy / appreciate your blog. One of the few great investigative blogs (vs. the hordes which merely comment on editorials).
Posted by: Brad in Waterloo at June 03, 2007 12:06 AM (btQy4)
May 26, 2007
Liberal Party environment policy authored in part by corporate communications expert for the Coppertone people
When the Liberal Party fashioned its environmental policy, would it suprise you to learn that one of the people called out for special mention in helping complete that work is in fact the Director of Communications for the multinational manufacturer of Coppertone sunscreen products? That company has, for over ten years, been working very hard to ensure that North American consumers are obsessed with the question of sun exposure, while at the same time making sure that those same consumers understand that the only protection against UV rays comes from the liberal application of sunscreen, instead of, say, wearing a light shirt.
Schering, the pharmaceutical in question, has been attacked for taking climate science, as imprecise and questionable as it is, and spinning it a certain way for corporate profit. I am curious if Liberal Party environmental policy was similarly nudged this way and that in order to profit the shareholders of Schering. The real question, of course, is why the Liberals would have given such a key position to a senior member of this particular corporation.
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Outstanding, Steve.
Thanks for that exposure to the more harmfull elements than the ones I am warned about on my daily radio staion.
BTW...the more smog alerts Toronto can declare justifies the bigger taxes they want to impose upon the taxpayers.
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 26, 2007 07:35 PM (Qgbhj)
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This kind of silliness explains why Harper is still stuck in the low-30s. Now, the Liberals are going to scan through the past of every Tory staffer and come up with dozens of similar nefarious links.
Bravo Janke. You screwed Harper again. Bravo!!
Posted by: at May 26, 2007 07:58 PM (wvYLG)
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Sensitizing the Canadian masses to their new neurotic fears is the stock in trade of anybody in marketing through PR and communications. This same strategy is being used to slag Harper and the Conservatives in order to reduce their popularity below that of Dion and the Liberals.
The Liberals know that they are in an impossible situation with Dion as their leader, so their only recourse is to trash the government in the hope that they can drag them down below Dion's abject level of popularity. Everything the Liberals do is to discredit the Conservatives without submitting their hapless leader to closer scrutiny.
The problem Liberals are having is that Dion is despised in his home province of Quebec, garnering only ~10% personal popularity, and only ~16% for all of Canada. The Liberal party as a whole is at ~30% popularity. The challenge is to raise their leader's popularity, but since it is futile, they are attacking Harper in the hope that Canadians are confused between Harper and Dion. When the Conservatives issued their "Dion is NOT a Leader" video ad, that was a perfect example of a counter-measure against the Liberal trashing.
The next election will come down to a popularity contest between Dion and Harper, coupled with the overriding question: "Do Canadians want another minority government and another election within 12 months .. or do they want to elect a majority government and stop the election madness?"
From a marketing perspective, Dion will be a hard sell because he has no base in his home province of Quebec, and he will be depending on support from English Canada. This is a marketing contradiction because Dion is more a Frenchman than a Canadian .. just listen to his English.
How would you market Dion and the Liberal party to Canadians??
Posted by: Observer at May 26, 2007 07:58 PM (KPO74)
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This kind of thing links together the Liberal Party of Canad'as penchent for scaremongering the Canadian people and their penchant for sucking up to corporate Canada for the Liberal Party's benefit!
Oh and whoever posted as "May"...get a life, You're WAY out there in LaLa land!
Posted by: Paul M at May 26, 2007 09:12 PM (8BOzM)
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Thanks for this post, Steve. Who would have known?
But, really no surprise. Just follow the money, especially when it has to do with the Liberals.
Where's there money to be made? Coppertone has every interst in scare mongering, in telling Canadians that Global Warming is "REAL," and that it "NEEDS TO BE COMBATTED"...by OUR PRODUCT.
How cozy that the Libs have appointed to the Renewal Commission, a report to the Liberal Party on environmental issues, an employee of a company that advocates their sunscreen product as an antidote to "Global Warming."
This is great reporting, Steve, info that I can add to my arsenal when pointing out to friends and acqaintances how wrapped up in corporate interests, for their gain, Liberals are. I only wish that Canadians were more perceptice and cared. Thirteen years of Liberal rule have numbed our integrity and principles censors.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 26, 2007 10:56 PM (/Bq3D)
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perceptice (above) = perceptive
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 26, 2007 10:58 PM (/Bq3D)
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there is now some concern about the excessive use of sunscreens blocking UV and UVB rays. in doing so they prevent the skin from producing vitamin D which is a essential hormone. doubt coppertone or others would make that fact readily known.
ref: http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/vitamind.asp
Posted by: spike at May 27, 2007 10:23 AM (geaCg)
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'Good point, Spike. You've also got to wonder about the contents of a cream that, supposedly, blocks UV and UVB rays. The skin is very porous and the chemicals that are strong enough to block these rays are being soaked up by the body.
Although I used sunscreen on my kids, so they wouldn't burn, I often wondered about the chemicals...
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 27, 2007 01:07 PM (A5A5E)
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the [company] in question, has been attacked for taking climate science, as imprecise and questionable as it is, and spinning it a certain way for corporate profit.
Spinning for corporate profit is fine. In the free market, corporations that only have spin going for them will go out of business before too long.
Unfortunately you don't have a free market. It's when you surrendered so much power to government - giving them half your money and then letting them determine for you how to spend the other half - which kicked the door open for corporations to spin, hype, scare, pressure and threaten you into contributing to their profits. Who needs to sell consumers on the benefits of a product when you can funnel cash to the federal cabinet and get them to do it for you?
This isn't a Liberal problem, not by a mile. How do you think we ended up with the gas alcohol boondoggle? Power corrupts Conservatives just as easily.
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In answer to the oeriginal question in the header for this thred: No It would not surprise me...actually it would not surprise me if a Chicago crack-whore had authored the Liberal policy on teen pregnancy either.
As for Coppertone and their GW/GHG quest for consumer sales of sun block...I widh they'd invent a topical applied "blocker" to take the stench of transnationalist corporate statism out of my nostrils when I pass a new LPC "policy".
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at May 28, 2007 10:50 AM (INHn8)
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Poster "May", you are shining, make that glaring example of the brains of the Left, totally screwed up and out of the realm of reality.
Desperation leads people down strange paths and it is never surefooted and confident.
Conservatives have taken heir lumps and learned from them while the Liberals in their arrogance show no sign of having learned a thing. Denial is the operative word with not a hint of allowance for even humility beyond their attitude of the divine right to rule without question.
There's no substance to the LPC policy on the fly and gotcha politics on all fronts.
To add to their insult to our intelligence, when Dion gets up to speak in English we have to ask, WHAT THE HELL DID HE SAY? The garbling of the language gets worse and he's supposed to have a coach in the English language?
GET STUFFED.
Posted by: Libby at May 28, 2007 06:10 PM (ssfB6)
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What a joke.
The guy was not representing his employer when serving on the Committee.
Keep digging because this is pathetic.
Posted by: Desireelover at May 29, 2007 04:22 PM (fOnqd)
Tetrodotoxin in Chinese monkfish
Mixing plastic component melamine in pet food.
Antifreeze diethylene glycol in cough syrop and toothpaste.
Deaths suffered by both animals and humans.
Imports from China have killed, and continue to kill.
Now Chinese monkfish is contaminated. And with one of the deadlist neurotoxins known to science. Tetradotoxin is best known as active poison in the deadly pufferfish.
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This might seem like a stupid question, but where are the Government food inspectors or whatever they are called, paid for by US and Canadian taxes? These are the people who we pay to stop these imports. These are the overpaid idiots who are allowing this.
Posted by: Pissedoff at May 26, 2007 11:43 AM (2xEN3)
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Would you buy a car from China?
Posted by: Chazz at May 26, 2007 04:54 PM (4z8N5)
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China is a FLICKING MESS ... and they don't give a sh!t about what happens after they ship something out and make a fast buck on it ... they are ferengi of the worst order ... and they have us by our Wal-Mart cajones ...!!!!
They and the muslims don't deserve to be part of the first world because they have contempt for us and our democratic values.
Posted by: at May 26, 2007 05:41 PM (KPO74)
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...how does that old saying go?
You get what you pay for.
Posted by: tomax7 at May 27, 2007 08:30 AM (jHhd0)
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It's time to boycott any foodstuffs from China and give that regime the message they've chinked away all their credibility as a trusted trading partner.
Importing Chinese wheat products is the ultimate stupidity. What's the big trade deal when your getting foods dangerous to human and animal health?
Wonder what Mo Strong thinks on this subject? Wonder if he's had a few feeds of some of the dangerous products along with breathing their polluted air? That would be the same polluted air we are to send credits for under Kyoto.
It's becoming clearer those who dreamed up the Kyoto scheme and those who signed it were bereft of all common sense.
It certainly is puzzling why those in our thriving Western Democracies accept and trust inferior crap from such a regime as China.
Posted by: Libby at May 28, 2007 07:46 AM (Wedwd)
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My neighbour had ice cream yesterday and instantly broke out in a rash.
Wonder if it comes from China.
Posted by: DrWright at May 28, 2007 09:19 AM (tzmyN)
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"It certainly is puzzling why those in our thriving Western Democracies accept and trust inferior crap from such a regime as China."
Follow the money, Libby. Someone's making a lot of do-re-mi from these deals--probably in the Liberal Party, as most of these deals were made with China when they were in power.
We know that Chretien, Martin, and Strong spend a lot of time in China these days. 'Probably working for nothing, you know, they're so altruistic.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 28, 2007 04:19 PM (PWhxm)
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Actually, this kind of stuff has been going on for a long time. In 1993, I bought my daughter, at a yard sale, one of those "Muffin Dolls," where the muffin part, turned upside down, becomes a skirt.
She loved it, and three hours later broke out in the worst hives I've ever seen, all over her body. We have pictures of her, poor kid. It took me a day or so to isolate this toy, which I put in a plastic bag and stowed away in the basement, just in case it wasn't the culprit. It was, and I threw it out.
But not before I wrote to Consumer Affairs with all of the details I could ascertain from the product. I don't think they ever got back to me.
As I say. Follow the money. We've got a lot of millionaires and billionaires in Canada, I suspect, thanks to trade with China--and it looks like we're going to have a lot of sick people, too, or worse.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 28, 2007 04:25 PM (PWhxm)
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Interesting parallel with the Blue ringed octopus which is armed with the same poison. This tiny but deadly creature was used as the perfect murder weapon in Michael Crichton's book "State of Fear". It leaves little or no evidence of an entry wound, and is rare enough that most medical staff would not recognize it. It leads me doubt that recent occurences in Chinese products are accidental.
Posted by: Scott Merrithew at June 01, 2007 04:40 AM (CpWzQ)
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The comparison to what happened when Canada discovered a few cases of BSE (mad cow disease) in dairy cattle not meant for human consumption, and where the risk of infectivity was virtually non-existent, is revealing. Why do we continue to treat China with kid gloves, when they violate so many norms of human rights, international trade and so on? They are not our friend. They are consumed by self-interest over all. I know, follow the money...
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May 25, 2007
Just what is up with Cullis-Suzuki's Skyfish Project?
The Skyfish Project is an "internet thinktank" set up by Severn Cullis-Suzuki, David Suzuki's daughter. But it is really a parked domain with spammy links for alien t-shirts and bizarre pseudo-Catholic end-of-time prophecies.
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With luck the little darlin' will make rewarding new contacts at Yale and settle outside of Canada.
Posted by: Nat in Ontario at May 25, 2007 03:32 PM (ZKglj)
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I had a few pop out this year, darn frustrating that,
conservative life
and politics canada hurt the most.
Posted by: biopiracy at May 25, 2007 06:55 PM (6lOEg)
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You lost me, Steve, with the linkages talk. But that's OK.
What seems abundantly clear, from some Googling I did on this couple (that is, if they're still together; 'looks like something as old-fashioned and time-tested as marriage wasn't on their "healthy" agenda) is that they both come across as vapid, lightweight, second-string activists.
The ONLY reason, I can see, that anyone would be interviewing Severn Cullis-Suzuki and Jeff Topham (try enroute, AIR CANADA'S monthly inflight magazine) is because of Cullis-Suzuki's one-degree of separation from her famous Canadian icon father, David.
Actually, there are no degrees of separation between David and Severn, as they're joined at the hip through his David Suzuki Foundation, of which Severn is a Board Member (along with Mo Strong, and honourary Board Members Margaret Atwood and Raffi). FYI: Severn's mom, Tara Cullis, also David Suzuki's wife, is the Founder and President of the Board of the DSF.
Nothing Severn has been quoted as saying goes beyond general "feel-good," "mom-and-apple-pie" statements. It looks like she had her 15 minutes of fame as a 12-year-old in Rio, where family friend Mo Strong invited her to speak at the Enviro-Conference that spawned Kyoto.
She's been playing off that and the Suzuki name ever since. 'Nice work if you can get it.
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"A Proclaimed Earthkeeper Hero"..pffffttt bwaaaa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ewww that was a side spitter.
The delusional left certainly have lofty titles for do-nothing icons.
I feel sorry for this Fruit Fly progeny in a way...the poor kid was subjected to cult-like mind warp from such a young age that can only be described as child abuse.
..it will take her some time to regravitate, shake off the fraudulent wold view she was indoctrinated with and realize her genuine orientation in the realies of actually living on planet earth, interpersonal and cultural relations...so far all I see is a young woman trying desparately to get out from under the shadow of a fraudulent public mystique created by her hukster father...kind of like being Elmer Gantry's kid.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at May 26, 2007 11:11 AM (INHn8)
May 24, 2007
Old News Alert: Liberal scandals have hurt Canada economically
A report attributes Canada's slip in productivity in large part to Liberal scandals. Shocking? Well, I wrote an analysis suggesting that this was happening two years ago.
No, really.
And I've waited patiently all this time to be shown to be right.
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I think that this escapade has turned millions of Qannddians into the adversarys of the people that they have elected to look afer their interests. It's now quite obvious what they've been up to, instead, along with the help from all their MADE-MEN in the RCMP and Press. You only go around once in life, so, who's lifestyle are we gonna maintain, folks? OURS? Or THEIRS?. Who's kid is gonna go to University? ..those rotten tapeworms....
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 24, 2007 09:11 PM (GN3Xe)
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Would you invest your money in a business where you knew the leadership was corrupt? Countries and economies need forein investment and investers will shop around for a clean place to park their cash. By the way, why is the media so quiet about our rising loonie? Whenever good news about our economy came out pre 2006 the media hailed the Liberals as geniuses.
Posted by: rations at May 24, 2007 09:35 PM (sPFQD)
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I import from Hong Kong, and I have had several suppliers remark to me in the past 4-5 years (somewhat jokingly) that our government is corrupt. They were aware, to some extent, of the sponsorship scandal.
If guys selling computer parts from HK know of the sponsorship scandal, you can bet the guys in suits do to.
Why deal with Canada, which has a corrupt government, when you can do business with the US? I wouldn't doubt the collateral damage to damage to Canada's reputation and economy was in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
Posted by: LePolitico at May 24, 2007 09:58 PM (HFs7a)
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Maybe we could fly a flag of convenience over Canada to trick them. Works for some of us.
Posted by: rations at May 24, 2007 10:08 PM (sPFQD)
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All those scandals you're in such a lather about were really only exposed and highlighted in this way because it suited the purposes of a politician who was engineering a coup against the then prime minister. And these were only the latest in a long string of scandals dating all the way back to the Pacific Scandal and beyond, into the murky, corrupt quagmire of New France.
Those who understand the fundamental axioms of human action as described by the Austrian economists know without having to consult any blue-helmeted bureaucrats' dubious statistical droppings that government corruption always hurts the wealth and freedom of citizens. They also know that any government intervention hurts its citizens, regardless of whether it is perceived as being corrupt at the time that it happens. This is not because of any unusual character flaws in the individual politicians or bureaucrats who are implementing the policies. There is a simple reason why, which has to do with the traits that all human beings share. All of us are greedy and lazy. Greedy in that we are constantly unsatisfied with our life in some way and seeking to improve our life. Lazy, in that we naturally seek the easiest path to improving our life. Many people would steal from their neighbors if they could, because this path to improving our material life is easier than working, saving and investing. But most people do not choose this path because they know that this will cause their neighbors to want to steal back from them or even hurt them and kill them.
But what if you could steal from your neighbors by joining a political party, getting a government job, or simply by voting yourself your neighbor's wealth? This is the perfect crime, because once you are in this position - inside the government, or pulling the strings of the government - you have a huge police force and an army to protect your thievery from the revenge of your victims.
Those inside government, not being particularly motivated to serve the citizens, instead use their ample time to come up with statistical arguments and other forms of sophistry to convince their victims that not only are the inherently corrupt government services actually benefitting the public, but that the public really needs more services, more government, more taxes, more control. This is why the greatest and most harmful con-jobs are nearly always portrayed as the greatest things that ever happened - the CPR boondoggle, our foreign wars, medicare, and so on.
And that is why it is futile to respond to the egregious scandals of the previous regime by looking for a better class of politician to take the levers of power and run peoples' lives for them. The existence of such levers of power is inherently corrupt because the power rests on coercion and not on choice. If you still believe in the value of democracy then the only possible way you can actually benefit the non-recipients of government cheques is by striving to elect only politicians who promise to freeze or dismantle the levers of power, and not support politicians who paradoxically claim that they can use the coercive force of taxation and redistribution "fairly". And if you are fooled into supporting politicians who claim they will give power and money back to the people who earned it, but who then invent new crises as an excuse to grab even more money and power, then you must try to undo the harm and unelect them, or at least expose them as the hypocrites and liars that they are.
Ragging on old scandals while you let new scandals germinate and fester under your feet is an entirely ineffective strategy. I see "Mulroney II" written all over this government, and I see "Trudeau II" warming up in the wings waiting to replace it in a few years.
Posted by: at May 24, 2007 10:42 PM (a0Sy/)
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Quebecers were the most affected by the Sponsorship Adscam scandal, and they know they were robbed of their sovereignty because the Chretien Liberal illegally funnelled money into the NON side of the referendum.
Okay, so Quebecers are now staunch federalists, but in their hearts they will not forgive the Liberals for their dirty tricks that besmirched Quebec society with the corruption and criminality.
Perhaps that is why Dion is so despised in Quebec, and the federal Liberals are a spent political force in that province.
Posted by: Observer at May 24, 2007 11:32 PM (KD8Rk)
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Maybe we need a law to force them to read your blog after all libs appreciate big government forcing things on people they don't want in a democracy.
Posted by: DrWright at May 25, 2007 09:09 AM (tzmyN)
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You might also include the $2 billion wasted on gun paperwork for duck hunters and a systematic underinvestment in infrastructure for over a decade
Posted by: Bruce at May 25, 2007 10:56 AM (+fvpG)
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I hope you don't let our anonymous Liberal friend bother you, Steve. It just shows you've hit a sore spot. And when a non-partisan organization like the Certified General Accountants Association of Canada agrees with you about the effect of government corruption on the economy, well, I guess some Liberal supporters can only handle it by using the lamest excuse possible: "Hey, it's human nature, we just couldn't help it."
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 25, 2007 02:01 PM (g7gYB)
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Nothing bothers me anymore, Brian, and thanks for asking. I've always maintained that I want people to join in the discussion from all points of view.
Posted by: Steve Janke at May 25, 2007 02:27 PM (eGtvb)
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Steve, I firmly believe that liberalism (as opposed to the Liberal Party) has been hurting our productivity for decades. But the sponsorship scandal ?
I think the NDP -if in power- could absolutely murder our productivity while remaining scrupulously honest. Anyone with a work ethic who is forced to belong to a union could tell you that. Socialism simply discourages people from being hard -or even good- workers.
If I have an axe to grind with the LPC (and I have several) it is that they have made us completely irrelevant on the world stage. Everything that we paid for in blood (4 overseas wars), ingenuity (medicine, aviation, technology), and even the arts, has been systematically pissed away -by liberals. Hell, even the US can't be bothered to revile us anymore. They just don't mention us at all, like we're a once-good friend who became a drunk and is somewhat of an embarrassment now.
Speaking of the US, it's interesting that they're not even mentioned on that UN quality-of-life list. Ethnic Dutch have been fleeing their country in droves for years now -but Holland is on the list. The US is not. Right-o...
IMHO, what's hurting our productivity is socialism -in all it's manifestations. Look at the editorials and letters to the editor prior to the 2006 election that warned that Canada under the Conservatives would mean that we would be left to fend for ourselves.
Fend for ourselves ?
Isn't that what used to be called being self-reliant ? Once it was something to be proud of. Now it's something to be feared.
That's what's ruining us. Just my .02 worth.
Posted by: up north at May 25, 2007 05:42 PM (sc+mc)
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We're being screwed here over by a system that combines the WORST aspects of both Capitalism AND Socialism. Like the Brits figured out, years ago, why try to run some szchiddt country for the apes that live there? All you really want, is to control the $$$economy$$$, JAWOLT? That's why you're all gonna pay $6.oo per gallone of Benzin, all the while the're the boiling Crude Oil from the TARSANDS for a mere $13 per 200 litre barrel...Herr Bush gets a BIGG LAFF outta that, you suckas....
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 27, 2007 12:05 PM (GN3Xe)
Is Justin Trudeau a sock puppet for the Paul Martin faction in the Liberal Party looking to come in from the cold?
I find it interesting that Justin Trudeau's contribution to the Liberal Party Renewal Commission appears to have been ghost-written by an Earnscliffe/Veraxis/Gandalf employee. It is doubly interesting that the report bearing Justin Trudeau's name has determined that Canadians want a return of activist government. Is that a subtle reference to a Paul Martin legacy of universal childcare and same-sex marriage and Kyoto enforcement and such? Does this suggest that Justin Trudeau is being used by ex-Martinites to surreptitiously inject their influence back into the party?
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So Justin Trudeau is just a beard for Martinites? What puzzles me about Justin is his abject ignorance about Canadian constitutional history and the role of capitalism in the Canadian economy. Or was it intentional?
The Liberals are desperate to energize the 18 - 24 year old age cohort to get out and vote, because they know this youth group would overwhelmingly vote Liberal. Now with heart-throb Justin spearheading the youth-activism initiative, the Liberals may feel they have a winner.
All this suggests is that the Liberals intend to camouflage hapless Dion behind the shining stars of the Liberal party ... Justin, Martha, Kennedy, (Belinda?) ... even Ignatieff and Dryden in the GTA.
The Liberal Bait & Switch Election Strategy.
Posted by: Observer at May 24, 2007 12:47 PM (ncO7y)
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We really need to have this twit spouting off each and every day, which will allow the many holes in this version of Socialism to become exposed to the light of day.
We also need to help promote the plan to have small "c" Conservative schools of thought, as this will be the only way to counter-act the Marxist teaching going on in most post-secondary institutions.
Posted by: View from the West at May 24, 2007 04:02 PM (g7gYB)
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Justin Trudeau is the gift that keeps on giving. HIs Fidel worship and anti-capitilast bleetings are well known. The Lie-beral's will never gather enough courage to cause the fall of government through a nonconfidence motion, there are plainly way too many skeletons in the proverbial closet.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Posted by: Bruce Randall at May 24, 2007 07:09 PM (BsWES)
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Any individual aspiring to Public Office should FIRST AND FOREMOST be pre-screened, drug-tested, psychologically- assessed to ascertain the underlying motivations, to pre-determine any intent or latent tendencies to commit criminal acts, and search said individual's participation in fringe religious,lobby-group, and/or crime-related organizations. especially, they should be searched for polyps.
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 24, 2007 09:20 PM (GN3Xe)
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At one time I was worried that Canadians (being the shallow trudeupinn cult worshippers the media takes us to) would make a mistake in empowering either of the Hoser royals with federal office.
Watiching the "Y" chromosome brat in action I must say my worries were misplaced. This ( I can't call him a "kid") secluded nitwit is so detached and insulated from main stream Canada that his robotic regurgitaion of out dated Canadianized Trudeau Marxism is not only plain boring ( we heard it before from Daddy and uncle Fidel) but kind of creepy in its detached frame of reference.
I don't think the Canadian people will let a insulated bookworm Bolshie activist near what remains of our freedom...I don't think the press can cover for himeither... as his "visions" are just so laughably utopian and open to ridicule...Dijon has nothing to worry about here...and neither do well adjusted folks who vote.
Posted by: WL Mackenzie Redux at May 26, 2007 10:57 AM (INHn8)
May 23, 2007
David Suzuki: Hypocrite or Henpecked?
In my first post on uber-environmentalist David Suzuki, I wonder if he sees himself as some sort of Medieval lord.
In my second post, I wonder if he is just a garden variety hypocrite.
In this post, I look into just what drives David Suzuki to do what he does.
More accurately, who drives him.
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lol! Well, that explains everything now. Thanks for the laugh.
Posted by: Joanne (TB) at May 24, 2007 04:48 AM (VR/iG)
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I don't feel sorry for him one iota.
Posted by: Reid at May 24, 2007 10:22 AM (/5CAv)
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This puts a whole new perspective on Suzuki and what makes him tick. It would be interesting to know his current relationship to his first wife and children. Is he a delinquent father or is he helping all his children?
Did he have any children with Cullis or was she only his white trophy wife?
Posted by: Observer at May 24, 2007 11:06 AM (ncO7y)
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Hey Steve - you're not being fair to poor Suzuki. You think it's easy for him to be Canada's great high priest of Kyotology (our answer to Al Gore)?
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 24, 2007 11:25 AM (g7gYB)
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The best thing to do is : Ignore David Susuki alltogether.
Posted by: Jan at May 24, 2007 11:40 AM (IiaaT)
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Observer, the heir-apparent to the Suzuki Foundation is his daughter by Cullis. No mention of his children by his first wife having been granted any part of the Suzuki legacy. That is not to say he is not involved or responsible in some way -- I just don't know one way or the other. But they don't figure in his public life the way his daughter by Cullis does.
Posted by: Steve Janke at May 24, 2007 12:07 PM (eGtvb)
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sounds like a pretty normal marraige to me
whats your point?
Posted by: Sierra at May 24, 2007 01:49 PM (CHE53)
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What a sad state for humanity, male and female, when an entire generation finds victimhood so compelling, it becomes their profession. Folks, victim = dupe.
Posted by: iowavette at May 24, 2007 03:00 PM (0p4xh)
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sounds like a pretty normal marraige to me
whats your point?
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The point is if somebody is going to advise Canadians how to regulate their lives, HIS life and lifestyle must be scrutinized to determine if he is genuine, and from what I read about Suzuki, he is a scam artist filling his pockets with public loot.
Posted by: Mary at May 24, 2007 07:13 PM (zgOOD)
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Never mind who's driving the garden variety hypocrite David Suzuki. His shakedowns of corporate donors are chump change compared to the billions and billions of dollars the monstrous hypocrites in the Conservative Party are poised to rip out of Canadians' hands.
Posted by: at May 24, 2007 10:04 PM (a0Sy/)
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What the hell is a serious evironmentalist or a envirofeminist for that matter doing with plastic bags in the first place? Much less wasting precious water resources to clean them?
Posted by: john at May 25, 2007 01:27 PM (eAUyf)
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So, just where is this "Tangwyn"? One thread says it's on Quadra, and another quote refers to the Queen Charlottes. I know he has land on Quadra as I live across the Passage from there- are they one and the same or did the journalist in this thread make a typo?
As far as adding my take on this jerk, everyone who has called him a hypocrite has covered him very well and nothing needs to be added. As far as credentials, mine equal his as far as the environment goes. In other words he has SFA to back him up without the common sense that any one with a brain can figure out, unless he's way smarter because he's making tons of money on this crapola. In fact, with his traning he should be able to come to a completely different conclusion ergo it must be the money that drives him.
Posted by: Dave from Campbell River at May 25, 2007 03:10 PM (PXpbU)
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Suzuki makes sence. His life, my life, your lives are all
vulnerable to breakdowns in ethics, integrity, commonsence.
Whats important is his ability to spotlight the obvious and attempt to bring it into the realm of action: personal, relational, political, corporate, educational. Really glad he's alive, really glad he is thinking feeling speaking
and really really glad he creates enough trouble to
rankle the ire of those with nothing better to do, and those
who, like him, are fully commited yet see things differntly.
Posted by: Crazy Bear at May 28, 2007 05:00 PM (oWDYD)
David Suzuki's grand Tangwyn property is a struggle for him
Consider David Suzuki's grand property (named "Tangwyn") on Quadra Island for him and his wife in contrast to my disgusting excess of a three-bedroom detached home on a tiny lot for a household of six. I suppose environmentalism has been good to Suzuki. Everything I hear suggests the world Suzuki wants me to have doesn't include a vast forested estate.
But then Suzuki says he struggles with what it means to be an environmentalist.
Must be so hard for him.
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I'm a late convert to this blog. Steve, you clearly rock.
Posted by: Peter Rempel at May 23, 2007 03:27 PM (3nB7G)
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You really should get off your ass and stop playing with mudpies. You are much too old for it, plus it is very unpleasant for the grown ups to watch. Wash your hands now, and go beat up on the neigbours kids or something.
Posted by: garhane at May 23, 2007 03:29 PM (6lL8i)
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I would love to see the Google Earth pictures of these places.
Posted by: Jay in Fort McMurray at May 23, 2007 03:30 PM (EdAtB)
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If you are not familiar with the west coast Kitsilano is similar to the Rosedale area of Toronto except with the addition of ocean views. As for Quadra most cannot even afford the ferry ride. These are million dollar areas that you and I would never dream of being able to afford. I wish someone would start a blog exclusively outing these green guru's. Cheers. sandra
Posted by: sandra at May 23, 2007 03:52 PM (A/RmO)
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Y'know what I really dislike about the left, garhane?
They drone on and on and on about respect - about respect for the environment, about respect for other people, for both genders, for minorities, for religions, for cultural diversity...
And then they shoot-off their mouths in a public forum and don't show any respect themselves. No respect for opinions. No respect for people who don't happen to see the world as they do. No respect - indeed, a scathing LACK of respect - for people who DARE point-out blatant instances of obvious hypocrisy in their revered icons.
HY-PO-CRI-SY. Saying one thing and doing another. Spouting ethereal platitudes and utopian dogma that doesn't reflect possibility, much less reality, all the while living a lifestyle that completely negates their words and nullifies their thrust among anyone of their listeners who's ever said "yeah, right..."
Doing their cause great harm in the process, while they're at it. Haven't you heard? People are jaded nowadays, they're cynical. Life is hard, gas is up and going higher, lots of workers can't afford the gas to get to work. And here's Suzuki living on a Quadra Island estate, and Al Gore using 20 times the energy of the average American household.
Do you follow the tenets of somebody you do not respect? No, I didn't think so; neither do I. And Suzuki and Gore are not people I choose to follow, because I do not respect the swankness of their profligate lifestyles versus the monastic denial of the lifestyles they're telling the rest of us that we have to live. I know I'm not the only one who feels this way; I suspect Steve does too, from his column.
And if you wish to convince either of us, or anyone else, to see it your way, you're going about it all wrong.
Posted by: Jim at May 23, 2007 04:00 PM (8S9HH)
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Haha This is some great blogging. Keep chopping away at the hypocrites on the pedestal. You're not going to see King David exposed like this in the MSM.
Keep it up, Steve. Garhame is probaly Welsh for 'idiot'.
Posted by: Levesque at May 23, 2007 04:06 PM (jQxJp)
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"Meanwhile back in Kitsilano, the people who make an average household income of $66,000 per year can only dream of living it up on Quadra Island. "
Kits is upper end Van land . . $66k wouldn't buy you a phone booth sized condo. 2nd parking spaces sell for $45k
Dr. Fruit Fly's pad in Kits is a waterfront mansion . . must be worth $3miilion . . . . just for the lot.
The lad has made buckets of money off the environment . .just as predicted by Steffi.
It's a good gig if you can carry it off.
Posted by: Fred at May 23, 2007 04:16 PM (Xej91)
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Isn't there a bit of a problem with this:
David Suzuki: I love Kitsilano and Vancouver, but there are
too many people and too many cars. I think we can have
greater density if we made the city much more hostile to
cars.
So ... does he want fewer people, or greater [people] density? One can't have both.
Posted by: Frank Ch. Eigler at May 23, 2007 04:45 PM (ICst6)
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You rock Steve.
The esteemed Dr. Fruit Fly is exposed again as the hypocrite that he is! Just like all the higher purpose folks, do as I say not as I do.
When will the sheeple see through this, obvious to anyone who has half a functioning brain, monumental scam. No wonder these idiots won't answer questions!
Suzuki, I used to respect you, but you have become a huge pain in the you know where.
Posted by: capndan at May 23, 2007 05:04 PM (xPK2O)
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As someone born and raised in Kitsilano - and yes, a proud graduate of Kitsilano High School, I can tell you that single family properties now go for close to a million dollars (or more) even if the house is a teardown and you can build 2 or 3 condos that will sell for about $600,000+ each. I am sure the prices have gone up since I typed that. Heck, I didn't want to see the Vancouver area grow so quickly.
Coastal properties over the last few years have seen gigantic surges in both prices and population - Parksville, Sechelt, Pender Harbour, Campbell River, to name a few. Now, Quadra Island is the main island directly to the east of Campbell River. It is home to a luxurious inn owned by the local native people. The area is very beautiful, the water, fir trees, good fishing, fresh air, eagles and other wildlife.
You're right, Steve, Dr. Suzuki could have a 1,200 sq.ft. condo in Kitsilano and still have a larger home than his grandfather. But from his comments it looks like Dr. Suzuki has two homes.
Lance M. Jefferson
Richmond, British Columbia
Posted by: Lance M. Jefferson at May 23, 2007 05:37 PM (kr6y8)
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Kinda reminds me of my stint several years ago in the offices of one of Canada's best known environmental organizations. Most of the stalwarts there owned nice pads in what has become a very trendy neighbourhood in Toronto now. I'm guessing that some of these folks are millionaires on paper at least.
Posted by: Real conservative at May 23, 2007 05:40 PM (EZLLA)
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Its amazing how the sheeple follow self-appointed elites like Suzuki and his ilk.
You are completely correct in your assessment. Suzuki is a hypocrite of the worst kind.
Posted by: langmann at May 23, 2007 07:29 PM (T5C+J)
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Suzuki is sickening and Gore's a bore and galling.
They're both of the "do as I say, not as I do" school, and seem to see nothing wrong. Of course, that's because they're part of the Nobility, as Steve points out, and the rest of us are peasants.
I saw a few minutes of Gore on Larry King Live last night and gagged the whole time. The guy is condescending and insincere: You can see it in his eyes, which are as cold as ice. (Since he fell in with the Clintons, he's begun to resemble Dorian Gray: You can see the corruption in his facial features. He used to be quite a good looking guy. Now, he's got an almost evil look about him, there's something of the serpent in his face...)
I think Gore is definitely delusional, and suspect that Suzuki is too.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 23, 2007 07:43 PM (mX8a3)
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If he really cared about the environment, he would donate his property to the Nature Conservancy, where it would remain untouched for all future generations. I hope people wake up soon and see Suzuki, Gore, and their ilk for the money grubbers that they are.
Posted by: Barbara in Wpg. at May 23, 2007 08:10 PM (J05dg)
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David Suzuki has a bigger house than you. He also has more books, more fans, better ideas, more publicity, and more common sense.
If you don't like his ideas, fine. Say so.
Yawn.
Posted by: James Bowie at May 23, 2007 10:44 PM (4Lzhk)
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As you can see by Mr. Bowie's comments, the average leftie is concerned primarily with external appearance - what everyone thinks of you; your social standing; how 'smart' you are, etc. They can't grasp concepts like moral standards, non-contradiction, individual responsibility, and the like. Their world view does not support it.
Because this is his world view, he thinks this is what drives Steve as well and so his 'argument' appleals to such shallow ideas.
Steve, don't you want 'fans'? That's why you're writing all this stuff right? Just to get fans. You're not really sincere about what you write are you? Really? You are?
Posted by: SC at May 24, 2007 05:00 AM (pO7HF)
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And to succinctly prove my point about Mr. Bowie, here's a excerpt from the current top posting at his blog:
"I just got off the phone with the Hill Times. They're doing they're annual survey, which includes such important questions as "Which MP has the best hair?" and "Who throws the best Hill party?" It's good fun. I guess this means it'll be published next week."
James Bowie -- keeping the 'lite' in socialite.
Posted by: SC at May 24, 2007 05:08 AM (pO7HF)
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Yup, and James Bowie's juvenile thinking is also keeping the leftward list in socialist.
G*d spare us from leftis stupidities Canada seems awash in.
Thanks, Steve, for being part of the antidote.
Posted by: 'been around the block at May 24, 2007 07:08 AM (YGX+B)
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garhane if Dave lives the opposite to what he preaches maybe it's because he's lying about global warming and is willing to take the money and run to an island where no one will bother him.
I heard his last house was bigger than his grand parents too. I so wish I could find a picture of it. I did with Al Gores 10,000 square foot Mansion.
Posted by: DrWright at May 24, 2007 08:30 AM (tzmyN)
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What a complete non-argument. Environmentalists can't own nice homes or be successful in the private sector because....???
These sorts of attacks, like the ones on Gore seem to me the silliest and most juvenile form of incitement to class warfare - those with views different than ours are hypocrites and likely owe all of their success to nefarious inside dealings of some sort.
Just because you are not that bright and not that successful doesn't mean that others aren't allowed to be.
If you applied your same twisted logic to other issues, people like you would have no right supporting any war if you were not personally involved in combat.
Posted by: canadian_2 at May 24, 2007 09:08 AM (tos+u)
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Sigh. Do you see how completely canadian_2 misses the point? We're not saying that Mr. Suzuki shouldn't have a nice home. We're saying that he shouldn't be chastising others for having 'bigger homes than their grandparents' when he himself has shown no movement toward applying the same principle to his own life. This is called 'hypocrisy'. I thought lefties were experts at pointing out hypocrisy.
Posted by: SC at May 24, 2007 10:03 AM (pO7HF)
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No canadian_2, people who try to impose their environmental tyrany on the rest of us should learn to live with it themselves first. Hypocrite is quite clearly an appropriate label for Suzuki and Gore, by any standard except by the twisted logic of left wing extremists like yourself.
Posted by: x2para at May 24, 2007 10:07 AM (ILrHm)
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If Suzuki and Gore want to proselytize to save the environment, they should be the first to shed their wasteful lifestyles .. and then walk amongst the poor like Jesus did.
Otherwise they must be suspect of profiteering.
Posted by: Observer at May 24, 2007 10:57 AM (ncO7y)
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To James Bowie:
If Suzuki practised what he preached, then I could respect him. Heck, he might even win me over totally to his way of thinking (I doubt it, but he might). However he is a perfect example of "Do as I say, not as I do." By any definition, that is hypocrisy.
In addition, he is totally without scientific or academic credentials concerning global warming or climatology. Check his website (www.davidsuzuki.org). So his views on global warming have no more authority than yours or mine.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 24, 2007 11:21 AM (g7gYB)
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If this is former First Nations land, perhaps the next blockade should be staged on Suzuki's front lawn. Heck, even I'd wave a flag in that parade.
Nice one, Steve.
Posted by: Wonder Woman at May 24, 2007 12:35 PM (bRllU)
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Actually I am a fervent capitalist who makes and has no shame in continuing to make an awful lot of money.
The jealous, lame commentary of so many of you who only view "left/right" in juvenile partisan poilitical terms give capitalists a bad name.
Posted by: canadian_2 at May 24, 2007 01:45 PM (tos+u)
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Canadian 2 posting from her local library branch.
Posted by: iowavette at May 24, 2007 02:35 PM (0p4xh)
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canadian_2, If you're such a fervent capitalist, doesn't it bother you at all that what Suzuki wants us to do is likely going to give our economy one monster kick in the nuts ?
Posted by: up north at May 24, 2007 02:41 PM (wKFJ6)
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canadian_2,
You've failed to address the points which were made in response to your post.
The issue is not whether environmentalists can be rich and successful. Who cares? (Your wealth, by the by, is likewise irrelevant; one wonders what motivated you to draw attention to it, as one always wonders about unsolicited affirmations of wealth and success.)
The issue is simply whether such a person can live in detailed defiance of the rules that they themselves lay down for others -- at the same time as they demand that their moral authority be recognized by those others.
Remember his response when he was asked about his C02-spewing bus: "What am I supposed to do, walk?" And how, when he was asked why he didn`t simply convert the diesel to biodiesel, he replied that he didn`t want to void the warranty?
Well, these are precisely the sort of sacrifices he expects everybody else to make.
He may be right in what he says -- again, that`s a separate issue -- but he lives his life in a decidedly different manner than he prescribes for the rest of us.
And that, my fervently capitalist friend, is the very definition of hypocrisy, and that is the only issue here.
Posted by: Darrell Goodman at May 24, 2007 03:08 PM (5MCZU)
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Not a huge Suzuki fan anyways, but the fact of the matter is that the shift to more efficient, cleaner and more renewable sources of energy over the longer term will create far more wealth than it will cost. Case studies of regions around the world where this has occurred abound.
Posted by: canadian_2 at May 24, 2007 03:12 PM (tos+u)
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To canadian_2:
Please don't get the idea that I don't believe you, but you'd bolster your case by providing links to these studies. Simply saying there are studies is meaningless. And, please don't forget environmentalism involves more, much more, than the fight against the human-caused aspects of global warming, however extensive those aspects turn out to be. I suspect that apart from the controversy over Kyoto, your views and mine are not that different. And, even including Kyoto, they may be surprisingly close.
It's good to hear that you're not a huge Suzuki fan, since he is the number one hypocrite in Canada when it comes to "Do as I say, not as I do."
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 24, 2007 03:39 PM (g7gYB)
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As a west-coast environmentalist I have a very different view of Kits. It is one of the higher density communities in the Lower mainland and while properties are very expensive a large proportion are rented to students etc.. The area is very well served by small markets meaning that most folk can do most of their shopping without having to drive. Thanks to the density the area is one of the best served by transit (full buses run on the busy routes every 2-3 minutes and are mostly full) and a large proportion of households own only a single vehicle.
The reality is that for our environment to thrive we need fewer large lots like the one owned by Dr. Suzuki and more high-density developments which allow for transit etc...
Most environmentalists I talk with dream of moving out away from the cities where they can grow their own food and live off the land. Sadly if every environmentalist lived in these self-sufficient households there would be no room left for nature.
Posted by: Blair at May 25, 2007 01:01 PM (5W6dc)
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Most environmentalists I talk with dream of moving out away from the cities where they can grow their own food and live off the land. Sadly if every environmentalist lived in these self-sufficient households there would be no room left for nature.
Why is probably why many environmentalists, including David Suzuki, think there are too many people on the planet. God only knows what he thinks the correct solution is to that.
Posted by: Steve Janke at May 25, 2007 02:34 PM (eGtvb)
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Having been inside he tent I can tell you that some of the most devout environmentalists sometimes called "Arcadians" in the scientific press (from the book The Arcadian myth in urban America) secretly hope that a global pandemic will address the population issue. It is my understanding this is where Tom Clancy got the idea for the bad guys in Rainbow Six.
Needless to say that sort of thinking was what drove me outside the tent and into the pragmatic real world.
Posted by: Blair at May 25, 2007 03:37 PM (5W6dc)
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No matter what the cause, or situation, there will always be those who see the opportunity to get rich. Back in the 1920's, many Canadians got rich smuggling booze to the U.S., including several wealthy Vancouver Island families.
Before WW2, many opportunists sold goods such as scrap metal to Japan and Germany, even though they were told they were using them to build weapons that would be used against us.
During the War, some tried to continue supplying goods to the Axis powers, including oil. One well known company had a plan to supply both sides with petroleum products.
Al Gore, Davis Suzuki, Paul Martin, Maurice Strong, and their legion of friends, have seen an opportunity to make vast fortunes off the environmental movement. Whether they believe in the catastrophic predictions, only they know.
Where the line between "opportunity" and "hypocrisy", is crossed, is when the opportunists go about the world scare mongering the masses to further their chance to make money.
Al's movie, and Suzuki's bus tour, are two of the most blatant examples of hypocrisy. I would respect both the Gore and Suzuki fortunes a lot more, if they had been earned, through capitalism. Both owe their good fortunes to the taxpayers of their respective countries, not hard work and ingenuity.
David Suzuki had the taxpayer funded CBC to thank for his fame and fortune, and Gore owes it to the fact his father was a Senator who sold his influence to a billionaire oilman. He was raised to be a politician, went pretty far, then failed to win the trophy.
The difference between Gore, Suzuki, and the Kitsilano residents making 66k a year, is their ability to schmooze with and charm the right people, and in Gore's case, the accident of birth into the right family.
I wish they'd both just shut up and retire with their millions. They've had their minute of fame, and have done enough harm., or good, depending on one's viewpoint, for any ten of us lesser mortals.
Posted by: dmorris at May 26, 2007 05:59 PM (BireE)
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Suzuki is a bloody goof. One of us need to call a spade a spade at his next personal appearance. Heckle him about his two or more homes and question him about his net worth and where did it all come from.
Both Suzuki and Gore are western dictators, with out the death squads. One more thing just a guess at Taliban Jack's household income. My quess is $3ook plus.
Posted by: rod at May 26, 2007 09:32 PM (nBhM7)
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SuperDave would have more far Qannaddian PC Credibility if he were a homosexual, pregnant, one-armed, Aboriginal female that only speaks French. Being Chinese simply isn't enough anymore, to satify our warm, cuddly feelings for giving Minorities a "leg-up". He should be a inspiration for those millions of $1 a day workers in his homeland....
Posted by: Feldwebel Wolfenstool at May 27, 2007 05:36 PM (GN3Xe)
Environmentalism, the Middle Class, the Middle Ages, and Dynasties
Ever notice that the world the environmentalists want us to live in is a lot like Medieval Europe? And in more ways than you might think?
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The Kyoto guilt trip is being drummed into every man, woman and child across Canada, and Suzuki is leading the charge, yet his lifestyle betrays his disingenuity.
I believe he also supports the purchase of Billion of Kyoto Carbon Credits to mitigate Canada's 35% delinquency in maintaining it's Kyoto GHG emission targets. This makes me very suspicious of Suzuki as another shill for the Liberal-Powercorp cabal who depend on Canadian taxpayers buying Billions of Carbon Credits from China so they can build even more high sulphur coal fired power plants.
Perhaps Suzuki should move to China (joining Mo Strong) and urge them to curtail their GHG emission for the sake of the planet. China's GHG emissions are apparently going to exceed even those of the USA shortly. Meanwhile Suzuki and gang are beating Canadians over the head for our measly 2.1% contribution to global GHGs.
Surely Suzuki is in the wrong country preaching his global warming warnings. Go to China, Suzuki ... !!!
Posted by: Observer at May 23, 2007 01:13 PM (Lnkh+)
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Ah yes - population is killing the planet - this from a man who has 5 children! We need more people in smaller homes - this from a man who requires two homes. We need to reduce our carbon footprint - this from a man who either flies or uses a guzzling bus to travel.
Very plain case of "do as I say....."
Posted by: Don't Want To at May 23, 2007 01:29 PM (HI4Hj)
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Steve, a medieval model may be the result of all this Kyota,eco-environmentalism clap-trap, but I don't think that's in the design. Rather, I think it's just plain Marxist-redistributionism etc that leading us there.
Posted by: at May 23, 2007 02:28 PM (xUjnI)
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Oops, that last post was mine.
Posted by: Phil at May 23, 2007 02:30 PM (xUjnI)
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If Gore, Suzuki and their sycophants really believed that population was killing the planet, they'd show leadership. They'd be among the first to shed their extra homes and then down-size to one-room shacks, go without electricity, etc. Heck, you would think they'd even be willing to volunteer to do their bit to get rid of the excess population.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at May 24, 2007 11:11 AM (g7gYB)
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the Hypocracy of the Green movement has always been very apparent to everyone except the green movement.
technical clarification on the Electric Cars Steve- your model of electrical cars driving a massive increase in power plants is unrealistic... Electric cars using re-chargable battaries is unsustainable... battary technology sucks too badly to ever make it truely viable. A more realistic model is electric cars powered by hydrogen fuel cells... the GHG signature increase from that is actaully fairly small as the currently most viable source of Hydrogen is Methane... likely how the model will work is gas stations will use the existing methane distribution system to re-form methane into hydrogen on the spot and then collect the reletivly pure CO2 streams to a central facility for re-injection and sequestration.
alternately and eventually this would be replaced by a massive increase of renewable energy sources such as wind or solar that would allow water to be converted to Hydrogen and O2 directly...
unless electrical storage technology takes a completely unanticipated leap forward in the next 100 years, (unlikly but possible with solid state capacitors and superconductive material ) fuel cells and hydrogen fuel are likely the winner...
but then back in 1900 when cars were being invented the Experts at the time were convinced coal fired steam engines were the likey superior choice power of locomtion for personal vehicles. A small, unrealiable, expensive, insignificant invention called the 4-stroke internal combustion engine, hardly even rated consideration.
Posted by: Sierra at May 24, 2007 01:37 PM (CHE53)
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For anyone interested there is a very detailed analysis of this subject from a scientific side take a look at the book "Green Delusions: An Environmentalists Critique of Radical Environmentalism" by Martin Lewis (Duke University Press 1992).
It considers the aspects of scale and density for environmental purposes and demonstrates how increasing density and going to larger scales substantially improve environmental conditions for the whole. More people living in smaller places in densely populated communities use less power per capita for heating and can be served by public transit. Services can be supplied close to the densely populated areas to allow for less need to travel...but don't tell this to Dr. Suzuki, he prefers to live on huge plot of land where he has to drive to get any supplies (that have to be ferried in). Meanwhile, his house, fragments the local area reducing the natural habitat for all the animals which he purports to wish to protect.
Posted by: Blair at May 25, 2007 05:43 PM (5W6dc)
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Very useful, excellent information..
Posted by: Anderson at July 06, 2007 07:37 AM (pILv6)
May 22, 2007
Will Yvo de Boer be declared an apostate by the head priests of the Church of Kyoto?
This senior UN official, Yvo de Boer, seems satisfied that Stephen Harper and the Conservatives have a satsifactory approach to the Kyoto Protocol. What is the punishment for apostasy from the Church of Kyoto?
Probably watching David Suzuki videos.
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I think Yvo de Boer has finally see the light.
David McGuinty appears to look more foolish by the day.
The Liberals just cannot get over the fact that they lost the election.And Canadians may ever hope never to have an Liberal Govt again.
Posted by: Jan at May 23, 2007 07:48 AM (IiaaT)
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When your 35% in the hole, you can't meet your targets on time, and that is what the Chretien-Martin-Dion governemnts sat on from 1997 to 2006. Why would they have been so delinquent in their Kyoto obligations?
Perhaps the Liberals were stacking up Canada's Kyoto GHGs targets so that the only way to mitigate the mess was to buy Billions of Kyoto Carbon Credits. Why would they do that?
Well you have to understand who gains to benefit from Canada buying Kyoto Carbon Credits. Obviously those who sell them, like Russia, India, and CHINA ... where friend of the Liberals have extensive investments in Chinese coal-fired power plants and their construction.
We know that Power Corp which has an interest in CITIC (the Red Army commercial arm) are building power stations, CSL is apparently shipping the coal to the power stations (CSL are building two ore carriers in Chinese shipyards), and it is even rumoured that Chretien is heavily invested in Chinese coal mines (where Chinese miners are dying by the scores).
If this are correct then we can better appreciate why the Dion Liberals are calling for Canada to purchase Kyoto Carbon Credits and send Billions to China. I heard David McGuinty say that Canada must purchase Kyoto Carbon Credits, while Harper and Baird are screwing the Liberals by denouncing them as "hot air" credits that allow the Chinese to continue polluting while the Canadian taxpayer is burdened with the cost.
There are many numbers bandied about as to the total cost of international carbon credits to cover Canada's 35% excess GHGs by the target dates, and I have heard up to $100 BILLION over 5 years. This has been criticized because it assumes a very high cost per tonne of carbon, but it is also probable that should Canada come on to the carbon trading market for such a large amount of credits that the price would escalate through the roof.
The only way to meet the targets with the additional 35% penalty is to extend the target achievement date, and since Canada only contributes 2.1% to total GHG emissions, it only seems reasonable that we be given a dispensation, otherwise the Kyoto treaty becomes flawed and rejected.
Posted by: Observer at May 23, 2007 10:58 AM (ZBuYK)
Earnscliffe makes money lobbying for and against Kyoto at the same time
Lobbyists are an interesting breed. They use their specialized knowledge to help companies and organizations make their view known in government, and hopefully influence public policy. I have nothing against that. But the case of Earnscliffe principal Velma McColl is particularly interesting, since it appears that this former senior Liberal Environment Ministry official is using her specialized knowledge to simultaneously help companies at opposite points of the same issue, Canada's commitment to Kyoto, to influence public policy.
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Perhpas you are a little behind the times and have not noticed the increasing Harper pal contingent at Earnscliffe, starting with frequent Harper mouthpiece and former director of Communications Geoff Norquay.
I personally have little time for any of these lobbyist types, but believe equal treatment is in order.
Posted by: canadian_2 at May 24, 2007 08:58 AM (tos+u)
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Posted by: tomax7 at May 24, 2007 10:29 PM (hIfQC)
Brush your teeth...and die! Chinese toothpaste is 5% antifreeze
Breaking: Ersatz Colgate toothpaste in the United States might contain DEG. And I just bought a suspicious tube of toothpaste in my local dollar store in Canada.
Brush your teeth...and die! Thanks to Chinese quality controls. On the other hand, the toothy grin on the skull-and-crossbones has never looked so bright and shiny.
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Thank you so much for staying on this topic. I avoid items from China as much as possible. After one of your previous articles, I checked my soy sauce and it was made in China and I threw it away (unused, thankfully). I just noticed that my daughter's eyeshadows are made in China. Do you happen to know anything about items such as that? It's time that other countries band together and refuse imports from China until they can prove their products are safe.
Posted by: Barbara in Wpg. at May 22, 2007 01:40 PM (J05dg)
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I agree with Barbara, but the dilemma resides much deeper than labeled identity of product origion.
The recalled pet foods, for instance, are labelled as Product of Canada or Made in USA. They dont identify the ingredient's origions.
This is a problem!!
Thanks You, Steve indeed for following this.
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 22, 2007 03:42 PM (OKRQt)
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From the same article a tellinhg quote:-
"Danyang City Success Household Chemical, however, said that while it did not export to Panama, it has used diethylene glycol in its toothpaste, and that the government does not have a clear regulation on how much CAN be added" (Capitals are mine)
- Nor , I bet, does it have any regulation as to how much rat poison or strychnine CAN be added .
Posted by: Rich at May 22, 2007 03:58 PM (RW5HE)
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I think your above label needs to be amended. Let's get the "food" dropped so that it says "Guaranteed free of products from China."
At least starting with the "made in China" products is a start. But just because it's not made in China doesn't mean it doesn't have components/ingredients from China.
Posted by: Reid at May 22, 2007 04:49 PM (/5CAv)
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Brush your teeth...and die!
Well, OK, as long as you're not getting hysterically over the top or anything. That's a well-known technique to get people to accept greater and greater government control over their lives, and it would be kind of funny if you used your blog to advocate even greater trade and health socialism on Canadians than they have now ... in the name of fighting communism.
DIT DIT DIT DAH DAH DIT DAH --- And now a breaking bulletin from the real world --- fluoridated toothpaste - the good ol' Canadian kind - is hazardous to your health if ingested --- DIT DAH DIT DIT DIT DAH
Toothpaste is not intended to be swallowed. Some types of toothpaste may cause nausea or diarrhea if swallowed in excess quantity. Extended consumption while the teeth are forming can result in fluorosis. This is why young children should not use toothpaste except under close supervision.
Prob'ly some of those damn Chi-coms been getting into our toothpaste factories.
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I thought it was a catchy headline. Grabs your attention.
Posted by: Steve Janke at May 22, 2007 08:22 PM (8EY+r)
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Crest products over 45 years of use have never made me sick or killed anyone. A U. S corporation coming under a cloud such as this would immediately be beset and destroyed by the media followed by plaintiff's attorneys. The EU and Japan would ban their entire product base and probably similar products from other U. S. manufacturers, e. g., BSE-infected cattle. The MSM is not tough enough on China. Being of overseas origin should not provide a "by" from criticism or repercussion.
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...I often wonder when visiting the Loonie (Dollar) stores to buy simple birthday cards, I see all the "made in china" stuff in there and wonder if...
I see lots of Crest and Colgate products there, along with Scope Mouthwash and so on. How can they sell so low?
If any Federalies are reading this, please check those stores first and let me know.
Posted by: tomax7 at May 23, 2007 11:20 PM (jHhd0)
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"Brush your teeth...and die!"
Not really sure which is more the moonbat, bolshi fellow travelers, or crackpot Randians.
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Elizabeth May sells Mulroney-era environmental initiatives
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WOW that was quite a giant leap. Crediting a business who has made great environmental strides must clearly mean that no other business has done so during the past 15 years. Brilliant.
Posted by: shawnmullin at May 21, 2007 06:06 PM (Gy4M3)
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Nice 1, Steve.
Posted by: ZiLLa at May 21, 2007 07:08 PM (beZtu)
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The Queen has no clothes ... uuggghhhh ...!!!!
Posted by: Observer at May 21, 2007 07:30 PM (GGyeW)
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