September 24, 2006
What's Joe Volpe doing right this minute?
It's anyone guess what Joe Volpe is doing in the wake of this latest scandal, but I know what I think.
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...i'm starting to miss wearing my tinfoil hat with all these Liberal types riding off into the sunset with my hard earned tax dollars padding their retirement fund...
Posted by: tomax7 at September 24, 2006 11:56 AM (jHhd0)
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Say it ain't so, Joe!
The country needs Joe Volpe as leader of the Liberal Party to ensure years of Conservative majority government to come.
The Liberal Party needs Joe Volpe to keep people's attention off the severe shortcomings of the other contenders.
Bloggers need Joe Volpe to provide a ready source of material for thousands of posts about the Liberal Party's venality and amorality.
Joe Volpe's withdrawal from the Liberal leadership race, and from public life, would make us all a little poorer.
Posted by: Loyalist at September 24, 2006 12:53 PM (TwKSE)
Posted by: neo at September 24, 2006 01:15 PM (YUt7e)
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Who needs an army of zombies when you have the liberal party of Canada.
budump bump
Is thing on?
Posted by: missing link at September 24, 2006 03:00 PM (5Owlj)
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Joe Volpe is beyond funny. If the Liberal Party of Canada elects this person as its leader, it truly deserves to spend the next twenty to thirty years in the political wilderness.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at September 24, 2006 04:58 PM (Uagor)
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Steve "Would anyone be interested in his support? At what price?"
I think you mean at what price NOT to support.
Posted by: at September 24, 2006 05:07 PM (zMnsO)
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I was shocked that he didn't drop out last time. The man has no shame - oh wait, he's a Librano candidate - that's a requirement.
When Bryant and McGuinty's brother said they were supporting Iggy, my first thought was "well, I guess he's out of the running". Same thing with Joe - kiss of death.
Posted by: Selma at September 24, 2006 05:29 PM (ifUn9)
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another ass bites the dust
Posted by: george at September 24, 2006 05:46 PM (nHj8W)
Posted by: neo at September 24, 2006 06:26 PM (5nD7U)
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I am sure honest Joe is on the phone, Steve, but I doubt that he will pull out of the race. I expect that the Monday presser will be to 'angrily denounce' the 'malicious, slanderous lies' being told by 'political opponents with their own axes to grind' yadda, yadda, yadda. Volpe has known since the race started, and perhaps before, that he wasn't going to win - his only goal is to be the kingmaker so he can demand a significant position as the price of his support. If you aren't in the race, you can't make that kind of deal. Joe didn't have the decency to pack it up after the Apotex contribution flap, and even tried to brazen it out; I see no reason to think that merely being caught signing up dead people will make him see things any differently.
Posted by: DCardno at September 24, 2006 06:36 PM (KvkNo)
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Really, the Dead-Canadian community needs representation as much as the rest of us! After all, they're only differently-oxygenated. There's no shame in that. And the Liberal Party has a long history of reaching out to Dead-Canadians. I think this is going to be ok for Volpe.
Posted by: Meg Q at September 24, 2006 06:54 PM (J06q+)
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I for one hope Joe Volpe sticks it out. His blatant lack of morality, decency and judgement should serve as a model to all Liberals. For us conservatives, the man is bottomless pit of jokes. C'mon Joe man up and stay in the race!
Posted by: Andrew Smith at September 24, 2006 07:33 PM (5sL6O)
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I imagine there are a lot of Librano$ who would hate to see the back of Joe Volpe. I think they've got used to the kind of "support" Volpe brings to the party, if you know what I mean.
You gotta problem? We'll fix it.
Posted by: 'been around the block at September 24, 2006 07:51 PM (mgjV4)
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There's a rumour out there that Volpe has decided to pull out and throw his support behind Rae. I wonder if anyone else has heard this.
Posted by: The Cyber Menace at September 24, 2006 07:57 PM (pwj7m)
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Scott "beer and popcorn" Reid was on CTV today, pointing out that Joe's communications people would likely be working to squelch any rumours that Volpe was quitting the race, if it wasn't true. In other words, the lack of denial is strong evidence in its own right.
But I have to acknowledge the possibility that these Liberal memberships might have been entered for the specific purpose of sabotaging Volpe's campaign. Did anyone expect to cast ballots (for convention delegates) in the names of these dead folks? What possible good could have been expected by increasing "Volpe sales" by two? When the Party hasn't released actual numbers of membership sales sold through each campaign. It all seems more than a little suspicious.
Posted by: Paul O at September 25, 2006 12:54 AM (isLIk)
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I suspect he's out digging up new votes.
Posted by: Shaken at September 25, 2006 05:53 AM (JyC7p)
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Neo:
"Volpe supporters say they will not be moved."
It's called Rigor Mortis...
Posted by: at September 25, 2006 09:29 AM (x4k8S)
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Re: last 2 posts...
...Priceless!
Posted by: Alienated at September 25, 2006 10:21 AM (MYChe)
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Maybe old Joe should go back to his old profession, and maybe teach Grade 3...but then again...mebbe not...like, who would want a sociopathic creep like this to have any influence whatsoever, on your kids?
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June 15, 2006
Joe Volpe's traditional support
Joe Volpe has begun to publish what he promises to be a monthly list of donors:
Winnipeg, June 9, 2006 - The Honourable Joe Volpe, Member of Parliament for Eglinton-Lawrence and Liberal leadership candidate, announced he is releasing an updated list of contributors to his leadership campaign. “I believe that we need to be as transparent as possible during this leadership process. I have said, that I intend to set the bar higher. Although Elections Canada and the Liberal Party do not require it, we will release my lists of donors, on a monthly basis.” said Mr. Volpe.
Mr. Volpe released a list showing over $58,000 of new donations that have been received by his campaign since the last filing. “I will release an updated list of donors on my website www.joevolpe.ca, monthly and I will be asking the Liberal Party of Canada to also post this information on the Liberal Party web site.” Volpe added.
Here is the list (recreated here because, well, just in case someone tries to sneak in a change):
NAME | AMOUNT |
Alzaibak, Mohammad |
$ 500.00 |
Alonzi, Fred | $ 300.00 |
Altomare, Tony | $ 1, 000.00 |
Arvanitis, B.J.Wil | $ 500.00 |
Bain, Allison | $ 500.00 |
Bancheri, Tony | $ 1, 000.00 |
Battison, Edward | $ 125.00 |
Battison, Flavio | $ 125.00 |
Brazeau, Jean | $ 1, 000.00 |
Canitano, Louie | $ 500.00 |
Ceolin, Fred | $ 500.00 |
Chant, Maureen | $ 5, 400.00 |
Desantis, Rene | $ 1, 500.00 |
Dolan, Richard | $ 500.00 |
Dorn, Walter | $ 500.00 |
Eligio, (Joe) Reina | $ 500.00 |
Fazzari, Frank | $ 300.00 |
Genova, Louie | $ 500.00 |
Gimigliano, Mario | $ 1, 000.00 |
Guido, Salvatore | $ 500.00 |
Guizzetti, Andrew | $ 1, 000.00 |
Iannuzzi, Maria | $ 1, 000.00 |
Kam, Michelle | $ 1, 000.00 |
Ladisa, Nick | $ 1, 000.00 |
Lamanna, Giuseppe | $ 1, 000.00 |
Leduc, Helen | $ 1, 000.00 |
Locilento, Angelo | $ 1, 000.00 |
Magnotta, Rossana | $ 500.00 |
Mazzotta, Josie | $ 1, 000.00 |
Monte-Lisi, Lucy | $ 2, 000.00 |
Montesano, Donato | $ 1, 000.00 |
Montesano, Madelein | $ 2, 000.00 |
O'Reilly, Francis | $ 1, 000.00 |
Pace, Al | $ 1, 000.00 |
Panarese, Luigi | $ 1, 000.00 |
Pellegrini, Deanna | $ 250.00 |
Pellegrini, Paul | $ 1, 000.00 |
Pellegrini, Sereno | $ 100.00 |
Pimentel, Carlos | $ 1, 000.00 |
Pontiero, Bruno | $ 2, 000.00 |
Primucci, Joe | $ 1, 000.00 |
Primucci, Sam | $ 5, 000.00 |
Ragusa, Joseph | $ 1, 000.00 |
Raif, Daliah | $ 1, 300.00 |
Reeve, Mark | $ 500.00 |
Saccoccia, Art | $ 500.00 |
Shnaider, Alex | $ 1, 000.00 |
Simone, Nick | $ 500.00 |
Taddei, N. | $ 1, 000.00 |
Tiberini, Galliano | $ 500.00 |
Tremamunno, Domenic | $ 1, 000.00 |
VanStaveren, Greg | $ 5, 000.00 |
Viele, Anthony | $ 500.00 |
Vranich, Darko | $ 1, 000.00 |
Yorke, Michael | $ 1, 000.00 |
Zentil, Garry | $ 500.00 |
TOTAL | $58, 900.00 |
Joe Volpe seems to depend a lot on support from the Italian-Canadian community. About two-thirds of the names are Italian. Of course, it might simply be that he is tapping into his traditional supporters first, and that as time goes by, we'll be able to see a shift as Volpe drums up support from across other ethnic groups. It'll be interesting to see how those monthly reports work out.
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Is Tony Soprano also in for $1000?
Posted by: wlyonmackenzie at June 15, 2006 08:45 AM (sdMWv)
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I think this might be too little, too late for Mr. Volpe.
Posted by: Jeff at June 15, 2006 09:24 AM (1k2og)
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Volpe. Support from the Italian community. Wow, who would have imagined? The nerve of those bloody immigrants. Supporting an MP with the same heritage.
Wonder if Olivia Chow received any support from the Chinese community? Why don't you do the legwork on this, Angry? And if you catch a hint of a Chin or a Chu on her list of supporters, go get her too. While you're at it, run Stronach and see if her supporters match any names from the Vienna phone book. If so, slam her too. And better do a run at Cotler. If there's a "stein" or a "berg" suffix anywhere on his list, well then you'll really be on a roll. Or bagel, as the case may be.
Sometimes the things you paint with an accusatory brush are just plain asinine.
Slow topic day, is it?
Posted by: fitzcarraldo at June 15, 2006 09:50 AM (loNyS)
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I see that the ages of the contributors are not disclosed -- pitty.
Posted by: Russ Campbell at June 15, 2006 10:11 AM (FNmxf)
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Some candidates have a broad spectrum of support and others have a limited base. Shows something about the candidate who wants to ultimately run the country when his support is so narrow.
A valid comment especially when the Italian community has long been a supporter of the Liberals. Who will pick up that base? Will it stay with the Liberals or is it moving on?
Typical of liberals to shut down debate by playing the race card.
enough
Posted by: enough at June 15, 2006 10:31 AM (ucHAZ)
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I have to agree with fitz on this one. I am afraid, though, that Joe Volpe has already lost his honor.
Posted by: morison at June 15, 2006 10:37 AM (DRtQx)
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I'm not being critical of the source of his support. Just observing how the initial rush is coming from the Italian-Canadian base in Toronto. The question will be whether that support will expand as time goes by. Since Volpe is the only one who has promised monthly updates, it'll be interesting to watch.
Not everything is an attack. Sometimes it's just about making an observation.
Posted by: Steve Janke at June 15, 2006 10:47 AM (beWVc)
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You could spin this another way. At least those from the Italian-Canadian community who know him well are willing to support him. And have their names publically listed as doing so.
As well, at least Volpe is doing a lot of disclosing on his website (which he isn't required to do). It would be nice if the other candidates matched his openess.
But I still don't like the tone of this thread and have to agree with Fitz. I'm sick and tired of people being hyphonated Canadians and I want to judge a person on his or her merits, not on heritage. Obviously, Volpe has given responsible positions to people who don't understand ethics (taking big money from children) so I judge him on that behaviour. Not on some insinuations about his supportors.
Posted by: Kathryn in Canada at June 15, 2006 02:29 PM (fF/Py)
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Kathryn -- Agreed. I have a tartan tie that I wear sometimes, and my grandparents did come from Scotland, but I do not consider myself Scottish-Canadian. As the beer commercial says I AM Canadian.
Posted by: morison at June 15, 2006 04:25 PM (DRtQx)
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With all the ethnic pockets in Toronto it's not safe to even make an observation. As for Volpe, he's toast, even for leadership of the Liberals. Trust, once lost, is very difficult to regain. would it be a racial slur to say he enjoys expensive pizza lunches?
Posted by: Old Biddy at June 15, 2006 05:48 PM (Ov2q1)
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It would be nice to see such a list from Harper circa 2002 or MacKay circa 2004.
Posted by: swine_mopper at June 15, 2006 08:34 PM (PR86A)
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Not a very broad strata of society is it?
But then maybe ol Kiddie-Corp Volpsie makes up for it by collecting from a broad strata of ALL ages, hmmm....?
Posted by: Slim at June 15, 2006 09:31 PM (CAYJo)
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Darko Vranich? He is involved with the Sundowner strip club in Niagara Falls as well as solid Gold in Burlington. A hotbed of striper/hookers, drugs and whatever else.
Caught smuggling E Europeans hookers in, for prostitution purposes.
Posted by: skyclad at June 16, 2006 06:51 AM (l1r/d)
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Didn't Darko Vranich recently host Stephen Harper at his house for a huge fundraiser?
Maybe he wants Volpe to win so Harper can crush him!
Posted by: Justin at June 23, 2006 09:09 AM (QVqQy)
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June 09, 2006
Joe Must Go!
Petitions are great. Not because they are always effective -- they often aren't directly. But because of the way they undermine the target and limit his freedom to act. A petition demanding that Joe Volpe abort his leadership bid in light of the donation controversy means that should Volpe decide to bow out now, he will do so with the implication that he was chased out. If he had bowed out before the petition was started (as well as all the other criticism), he could have avoided that association, one that will follow him to end of his (possibly dramatically shortened) political career.
But enough thinking. More signing!
Note that the petition is open to Liberal Party supporters. As I am not a supporter, I have not signed it. Please keep it honest. And anyway, if you support the Conservatives, you probably want Volpe to stay as long as possible.
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Steve, shouldn't it be "Go Joe!" for Liberal leader? I can't think of anyone I'd rather have leading the Libs into an election against Harper. All the dirt of Chretien and Martin with none of the charm. Awesome.
Go Joe!
Posted by: The Phantom at June 09, 2006 12:59 PM (nAMT1)
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Right. Signed by "people" like "Blow me Liberals" and "Pierre Idiot Trudeau". Now _there's_ a document with a shitload of credibility.
Take the link down. It makes anyone affiliated with it look like a complete prat.
Posted by: fridaypubservant at June 09, 2006 02:10 PM (ZswGl)
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By focusing on Volpe, the rest of the corrupt liberal leadership wannabees seem to be getting a free ride. I, for the life of me, cannot understand why anyone is upset about Volpe's recent actions--what is different than any other Liberal for the last 13 years. Not one of them spoke up against adscam, hrdc, election fraud, military debasement, and all the other Liberal corruption that is too long to list. Not one of them said anything, so Volpe is just one of a long list that should go--by picking on him we are saying that he is worse than other Liberals, when we know that they are all cut from the same cloth. I would rather the petition was for getting rid of the current gang and starting over. That probably wouldn't do much but it would clean out the barnyard for the next load of manure to be piled into.
Posted by: George at June 09, 2006 02:33 PM (YyPR2)
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Here's a thought.
How many liberals are hoping Joe steps out of the race before the candidates debate tomorrow?
Its bad enough that the media starts running wiht the story, its worse when a rival uses a party debate to voice their displeasure.
Any bets who will be the first to publically skewer Joe during the debate?
Posted by: gimbol at June 09, 2006 03:13 PM (zElnE)
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Getting donations for Joe is like taking candy from a baby. Sorry, couldn't resist. Volpe's inept and vainglorious antics are just too funny - does he honestly believe he's still got a shot at the top spot now?
Online petitions always have their share of cranks but most of the signatories thus far seem legitimately incensed at Volpe's insistence on extending Liberal pork barrelling to the piggy banks of the nation's children.
Posted by: Steve A. at June 09, 2006 03:38 PM (x4k8S)
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Joe Volpe should stay in the liberal leader race if only to complete the destruction of the Liberal Party for good.
It is essential that an other political party emerges to contest the governing of this great country. A party completely revamped. A socialist party such as the NDP is not desirable, since socialism is not condusive to bring out the best in people for the good of all.
Posted by: John at June 09, 2006 08:26 PM (FmPX9)
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Joe Volpe should stay in the Liberal leadership race and if he wins that will ensure the total destruction of the liberal party which will be good for the Country.A totally revamped party is essential to keep balance in the governance of Canada. A socialst party like the NDP is not desireable for Canada since socialism does not bring out the best in people for the good of all.
Posted by: John at June 09, 2006 08:32 PM (FmPX9)
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June 07, 2006
Run, don't walk, away from Volpe's campaign
In a sign that Joe Volpe has not been able to put the donations controversy behind him, Sukh Dhaliwal, the Liberal MP for Newton-North Delta, has withdrawn his support for Volpe.
More at Public Eye Online.
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But remember Dhaliwal was supporting him till he became an "Inconvenient Joe" !
Posted by: PGP at June 07, 2006 07:01 PM (iv01O)
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Remember the T-shirt, "Republicans for Sharpton..." ?
We need the T-Shirt "Conservatives for Volpe; What could be more fun...?"
Posted by: accidentwaitingtohappen at June 08, 2006 10:40 AM (CP3Cr)
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Loved PMSH's crack in Question Period on Wednesday
that the CPC was giving each child in Canada $1200 instead of forcing each child to contribute $5400!
That old "Culture of Entitlement" is going to take decades to leave the Liebral mind-set.
Posted by: Alienated at June 08, 2006 11:50 AM (MYChe)
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Watching Volpe on TV when interviewed his eyes are disappearing under his eyelids to hide.
Wonder what that means?
Posted by: John at June 08, 2006 12:48 PM (FmPX9)
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Run don't walk indeed. But for those of you under 18 don't forget that helmet and knee/elbow pads for safety!!
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June 04, 2006
An update on the state of free speech in Canada
Well, it's been a couple of days since the controversy over Liberal Party leadership candidate Joe Volpe's odd donations (including thousands from several young children of drug company executives) boiled over. One of the casualties was a parody website, YouthForVolpe.ca, a wickedly funny send-up of the sort of people who would use children to evade political funding limits. On the word of the Volpe campaign manager, the website was shutdown by the Canadian Internet Registration Authority.
I wrote on the terrible precedent this sets, where criticism of political figures can be silenced. Many other bloggers did the same.
I have just gone through each of the candidates' websites, and not a single one of them has acknowledged the actions of Joe Volpe, either in support of free speech and so critical of Volpe's actions, or supportive of Volpe.
Obviously, these candidates, each of whom would like to be prime minister one day, would rather not take a stand.
That's not good enough, not on this issue, not for me.
So I've written to each of them:
Dear Sir or Madam,
I am writing to each of you as the registered candidates for the Liberal leadership campaign in search of an answer to the question, "Are you in support of political free speech?"
In the recent controversy surrounding candidate Joe Volpe's campaign donations, a parody website www.YouthForVolpe.ca was created. The site was careful not to attribute any actions, real or imaginary, to Mr Volpe. The site was created by the Apotex executives to entice children to donate to Mr Volpe's campaign -- or at least that was the joke. There were no quotes from Mr Volpe, real or imaginary, nor any attributed actions, even as innocuous as saying Mr Volpe appreciates all the help he can get. Mr Volpe was essentially a passive backdrop to the satire.
In my mind, it is hard to claim defamation when the remarks in question don't actually say anything about the subject claiming defamation.
But even if it cuts it close, doesn't political freedom require the greatest possible latitude, the most generous interpretation, in order to maintain a healthy democracy?
The Volpe campaign was successful in having the site shut down on the basis that it was defamatory. To many people, that is a chilling action. Will you, as a Liberal leadership candidate, take a stand to say that shutting down such a site is unacceptable, or at the very least, an over-reaction?
What can we expect of the the current crop of Liberal leadership candidates when the media and the public at large find themselves at odds with them? Are you willing to say that criticism has a special place in political discourse, and that the actions of Mr Volpe and his team were heavy-handed?
Or is criticism of our leaders not a Liberal value?
I look forward to your thoughts on the matter.
Best wishes,
Steve Janke
(aka Angry in the Great White North)
P.S. All responses (or lack thereof) are subject to publication. All responses will be published without any editing.
I'll post the responses as I get them.
Will they respond? I'm not sure, but I'm not hopeful. It might make for an interesting discussion tomorrow on Charles Adler's radio program. I'll be on around 3:30pm eastern to discuss the Volpe situation, his takedown of the website, and the role of satirical free speech in politics.
You can find links to the live internet broadcast at CharlesAdler.com
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Please ask Mr. Adler who he would suggest would be the best person to be Prime Minister right now.
The hammer job he has been running on PM Harper is disgusting and childish. He suggests that it is wrong to try and have order and etiquette in the press and that the PM is the one who is childish. If the PM is ducking questions he is wrong, but nowhere have I seen evidence of some grand conspiracy to do that (except by the loonies on the left).
I guess Martin was great at properly answering questions??.
Posted by: Sid at June 04, 2006 02:02 PM (Abxcx)
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Janke does not usually pull punches, but where Volpe is concearned, there is the matter of White Collar Crime.
Too crass? Too blunt? When vested interests of a drug cartel channel units of $5400 to politicos through four year old children, I call that a crime.
Especially as I have seen seniors who have 8 to 10 prescriptions on their dresser. There is no way any doctor can understand how all those costly medications interact.
The doctors and the drug companies are involved with what appears to be a co-operative rip-off of Canadians and our health care system.
We have all heard documenteries about excessive surgeries. Ceasarian births, for example, are far beyond normal required numbers. Multiply that by all the various elective surgeries that need not be done, but are done anyway.
White collar crime, run amok, is what it is.
Why not call a spade a spade. You know it and I know it, but it is just not fasionable to say so. Is that it? TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at June 04, 2006 02:47 PM (2GVBQ)
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To continue on your theme of free speech, do you recall during the last election campaign some guy who heckled Paul Martin in Quebec was thrown in jail for the weekend. Compare that to the treatment given to the hooligans who refused to all Monty Solberg to address a meeting last week. That was barely even reported in the media, but then the first instance concerned a Liberal, and the second a Tory.
Posted by: Judith Dvies at June 04, 2006 06:39 PM (bxOjK)
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I'd be surprised if you got any response from those Losers, er, Liberals.
Posted by: Musings about This and That at June 04, 2006 07:14 PM (/V2m6)
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Spot on, Judith. There is a double standard: one standard for lefties and another for conservatives.
"Those on the right are in the right; those on the left are merely 'sinister'."
Posted by: Musings about This and That at June 04, 2006 07:16 PM (/V2m6)
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You won't hear squat from a one of them on this. They'll just let their pals in the MSM deflect and distract until it has blown over.
The Liberals mistakenly think that their position is the High Ground, and for that we will give them a pass on their transgressions. In this they are misguided, and continue to demonstrate through this campaign that they have learned nothing, that they remain arrogant in their Belief in Ownership of the High Ground, and are thus entitled to anything this is not nailed down.
No amount of spinning by their Press Pals is going to fool us.
Where is the Tsunami money?
Posted by: Shaken at June 04, 2006 08:13 PM (JyC7p)
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The youthforvolpe.ca site wasn't taken down from the web by CIRA on the request of Volpe's campaign manager. They issued a statement here:
http://www.cira.ca/news-releases/176.html
The registrar removed it because it was registered with invalid information. There are likely thousands of sites registered that way, but the registrar would have to act if someone made a complaint. It seems Mr Volpe is just trying to make it seems like he has a lot more power than he actually does. His office likely just complained to the registrar who pulled the site.
Posted by: Angry Canadian at June 04, 2006 09:06 PM (f7z9E)
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Angry Canadian,
Yes, that is what the Volpe campaign said, hwever, those behind the parody site have published the letter they got from CIRA which indicated that the volpe campaign is bs-ing. The volpe campaign threatened to sue CIRA and CIRA pulled the site.
Websites in Canada
Politicians threatening litigation
Freedom of speech eliminated
Liberal party same old story
Posted by: capt joe at June 04, 2006 09:16 PM (fRm9M)
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This is not about free speech. Steve, I thought (perhaps incorrectly), you're line of work was Information Technology?
I've written a brief article on domain names on my site as well as a couple of articles on Freedom Of Expression, if you are interested.
If Joe Volpe has "eroded" free speech with regard to the regisration of a domain name, then so have thousands of others who have complained to registrars about a domain name registration.
Domain name registration has NOTHING to do with free speech.
Posted by: Ian Scott at June 04, 2006 10:57 PM (rTdBn)
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Capt Joe, don't think I'm trying to defend Volpe and I'm no Liberal, but I'd like to see some links to this information your looking at so I can see for myself. PolicyWatch has a post on the false information used to register the site.
(http://policycanada.blogspot.com/2006/06/youth-for-volpe-i-have-saved-copy.html)
As well Michael Geist of CIRA has posted on the issue on his blog. If you read the comments there's a link indicating an email from the registrar to the registrant indicating the removal of the site. Again nothing to do with CIRA....
(http://michaelgeist.ca/component/option,com_content/task,view/id,1277/Itemid,85/nsub,/)
Personally I agree with Ian Scott...
Posted by: Angry Canadian at June 04, 2006 11:04 PM (f7z9E)
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"those behind the parody site have published the letter they got from CIRA which indicated that the volpe campaign is bs-ing. The volpe campaign threatened to sue CIRA and CIRA pulled the site."
Incorrect. What they have published is an email they claim is from the Registrar, not from CIRA.
CIRA claims that the registrar sent them, through their automated system, a request for suspension because of incorrect registrant information.
Both of these issues may be indeed be factual - there however, is NO evidence that Volpe threatened to sue anyone - that is simply your projections upon the email the 'youthforvolpe.ca' folk published. All the email said was to the effect, in "our opinion, your domain name registration (note, this does not apply to "CONTENT" but simply to the registration and purpose of registration of a domain name), that it could be against one of the articles of the CIRA contract.
Whether that domain name is indeed, defamatory, or whatever else is listed in paragraph 3 of CIRA's agreement, the very fact that Mike Hunt did not provide factual information, and therefore if the registrar could be found to be responsible for not informing CIRA that the registration did not meet the contract for .ca domains, would then put the Registrar at risk for civil action.
Posted by: Ian Scott at June 04, 2006 11:30 PM (rTdBn)
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I have to keep wondering why so very few people want to discuss the fact that "Mike Hunt" fraudulently entered into a contract in the first place?
If he hadn't fraudulently entered into the contract, he could at least have the opportunity to appeal the suspension.
"Mike Hunt's" freedom of speech has not been eroded. Rather, the fact that he fraudulently contracted for a domain name registration, and was caught out in that, has now been turned into a "freedom of speech" issue, by people who have no clue about domain names, IP addresses, or how the Internet works, and how it relies on Standards, one of which is providing factual inforation for a domain name - regardless of whether it is done under the auspicies of CIRA, or ICANN, or any of the world regional Internet domain name authorities.
I find it incredulous that only part of the issue, from those who should know better, is being presented.
Posted by: Ian Scott at June 04, 2006 11:39 PM (rTdBn)
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It's laughable to think that the Apotex folks thought they were giving Volpe a golden egg when in fact they left him nothing but a flaming bag of dog waste on his campaign doorstep. With friends like that...
To paraphrase a wiser man than me, the folks in the Liberal war rooms seem to have an uncanny knack for hitting their own jugulars!
Posted by: at June 05, 2006 07:34 AM (x4k8S)
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Here's how one former CEO is dealing with the issue of 'free speech' and 'defamation':
http://www.dustmybroom.com/?p=3788#comments
Posted by: JM at June 05, 2006 09:21 AM (UV8dt)
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For those who care: www.youth4volpe.ca.
This one's registered to a legitimate person with a real address.
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The dark side of Joe Volpe
The Chinese Government is willing to accept good-natured criticism and suggestions so that we can further improve our human rights situation.
Those words were spoken by the Chinese ambassador to Canada in October of 2003, speaking to the Canada-China Legislative Association.
For most people who know anything about China, the towering hypocrisy makes one's skin crawl. Chinese prisons are filled with people who offered "good-natured criticism", many of whom will suffer the fate of being executed so that their organs can be harvested and sold on the black market.
But Canada is better, right? Canadians understand the importance of free speech, especially the freedom to criticize and to dissent, right?
I know one group of Canadians who seem to have a problem with this -- Joe Volpe and his Liberal leadership campaign team.
When the Joe Volpe campaign was caught accepting thousands and thousands of dollars in donations from families, including children, each family headed by an executive of the generic drug manufacturer Apotex, people immediately cried foul, accusing Volpe and his people of accepting a corporate donation far in excess of the legal limit by hiding the money in individual donations.
Of course, it was the use of children as donation mules that drove the story.
So Mike Hunt created a parody site, www.youthforvolpe.ca. It featured hilarious send-ups of earnest children glad to have the chance to send money Volpe's way:
"Joe Volpe's deep commitment to integrity inspired me to support his campaign! I borrowed $5,400 from my parents in a manner compliant with all campaign finance regulations as they then existed." -Ann Lee, age 4, Calgary
That site was shut down by Volpe's people (it has since re-appeared under a different address):
Mr. Volpe's campaign had the site shut down without knowing, it seems, who put it up: "Hi Everyone," wrote Brenden Johnstone, who is with the Volpe campaign, in an e-mail to other leadership campaigns. "There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race.
"My Office has had the website suspended through CIRA [Canadian Internet Registration Authority] and CDNS [Canadian Domain Name Services] and it will be down as soon as 6 p.m. I think the issue with the website has been dealt with. . . ."
CIRA acted on the basis of "defamation":
When the website creator discovered the site had been removed, an email was sent to the registrar asking why the actions were taken. The registrar advised the site creator that it had violated Article 3.1 Paragraph (h) (i) and (ii) of CIRA Policies which allow CIRA to suspend a domain name. The rules say CIRA may suspend a domain if the site is directly or indirectly, defaming or contributing to the defamation of any other Person or unlawfully discriminating or contributing to the unlawful discrimination of any other Person.
Defamation is the act of injuring the reputation of another person through false statements. I dare say Volpe had done plenty of injury to himself -- to blame a parody site and then have it shut down shows him to be as oblivious to his situation as he is disdainful of freedom of speech.
And where was the defamation? The site was "Youth for Volpe" -- the joke was that a third party (a group from Apotex) was enticing children to donate to their favourite candidate, not of Volpe himself tricking children into giving him money.
If the people at Apotex were the targets of defamatory statements, then why did Brenden Johnstone of the Volpe campaign get involved? The people at Apotex can afford their own lawyers. Johnstone answers the question in his own email, and strikes at the heart of the matter:
There has been concern about how the issue of the Volpe donations was reflecting on the leadership race. [emphasis added]
The issue was the donations, not the website. In other words, the website amplified the issue, but did not create it.
But then that is the role of political humour, to bring into sharp focus the actions of public figures, especially those who would wield great responsibility over our lives. If every politician took action like Volpe, there would be no political cartoonists working in Canada. Volpe's actions (and I attribute the actions of his team to him personally, since he is their boss) are abhorrent in a democracy. Volpe has shown himself to value personal power over the rights and freedoms of citizens in this country. Subjected to a joke aimed squarely at the actions he took in accepting and then defending questionable donations, he attacked the person making the joke, perhaps hoping to quell further discussion. The 18th century German satirist Georg Christoph Lichtenberg said, "A person reveals his character by nothing so clearly as the joke he resents."
Volpe's actions against the website, and the support he received from CIRA, should be denounced in the strongest possible terms, especially by those who use the Internet as a means of political and personal expression. I hope people reading this take the time to register their anger. Don't stop, though, with an email to Volpe. Get in touch with your MP to point out that you feel that your freedoms have been diminished by this action. Get in touch with the editor of your favourite newspaper or your favourite talkradio personality. Tell that person you expect him or her to take a stand when political speech is being threatened.
They, of all people, ought to understand just how precious that freedom is. Their livelihoods depend on it.
Which brings me full circle. Why did I choose to quote the Chinese ambassador? There have been plenty of far more worthy people throughout history who have spoken words in defense of political dissent than this hypocritical ChiCom mouthpiece.
The reason is the delicious irony. Present when the ambassador delivered his remarks was the Vice-Chair of the CCLA, a man dedicated to improving relations with the Mao's dictatorship. It was our very own Joe Volpe. Part of his job was to help the Chinese improve their attitude towards human rights and political freedoms. Instead, it looks like Volpe was the one getting advice.
List of bloggers calling Volpe out on a censorship charge:
Send me a link and I'll add you to the list.
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Let Freedom Reign has posted here: http://71.18.16.165/2006/06/liberal-censorship.html
Posted by: Richard Evans at June 03, 2006 09:01 AM (XS3Ab)
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The action by CIRA is/should be anticipated by all of its registrants. As a domain owned wholly by the Canadian Government (notwithstanding its member "board"), and the umpteen pages of "contract", you just know that censorship will be the norm. Smart users of .ca will always have another "dot" in the bank, just for this very reason. Plus, they're twice as expensive as most other domains. Doesn't make it right, just Liberal. You know, the tolerant party.
Posted by: Skip at June 03, 2006 09:14 AM (cwNPv)
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Imagine Joe Volpe as Minister of National Daycare. Wow!! What a generous and captive audience that would be for Jo-Jo PizzaDough!!!!!
L.H. & K.
Posted by: TangoJuliette at June 03, 2006 10:31 AM (RDtfa)
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It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. It may have been a case of a registrar jumping the gun, or getting wires crossed, since it was legal to take down the [anonymous] registration. It wouldn't have been legal if the only reason was a threatened defamation suit.
This will have to be a lesson to parody artists out there - if they use a domain name to get the word out, then they might lose their investment and clever domain name if they don't make their identity public. It works well for Rick Mercer, but I can guess average Joe might get a hard time from the lawyers and such.
Posted by: saskboy at June 03, 2006 12:58 PM (ZwxZw)
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Obviously you may not refer to ANYONE as ANYTHING anymore, unless after first going thru a court of law, to get a legal judgement. Old Uncle Adolf would be proud.
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Beer and popcorn, redux
Let's recap.
People who want to see Joe Volpe as the next Liberal Party leader use children to write cheques in the amount of thousands of dollars and so evade donation limits:
Two 11-year-olds donated $10,800 to Joe Volpe's Liberal leadership campaign, and their 14-year-old brother gave another $5,400.
The sums were from children of former Apotex Inc. vice-president Allen Shechtman and were among the 20 donations totalling $108,000 to Mr. Volpe's campaign from five current and former executives of the firm and 15 of their family members.
Liberals in Joe Volpe's camp think there is nothing wrong with this:
Earlier, however, Mr. Volpe's national campaign co-ordinator, Scarborough MP Jim Karygiannis, insisted that nothing was wrong with the donations from 11-year-olds, and noted that it is legal for children of any age to donate to an election campaign.Mr. Volpe's spokesman, Corey Hobbs, said Monday that all the donations are in full compliance with the law, and that none will be returned.
Indeed, Volpe is ready to sue anyone who criticizes him:
Yesterday, Mr. Volpe's lawyer, Steven Polak, sent a letter to [New Democratic Party MP Pat Martin] demanding that he retract “false, malicious, and slanderous statements about Mr. Volpe and contributions to his leadership campaign.”
The Liberal Party itself thinks using children as money-laundering mules is just good campaigning:
The national Liberal Party said yesterday it has no reason to investigate donations to leadership candidate Joe Volpe from current and former executives of a generic drug firm and their relatives.
While other parties criticized the donations, national director Steven MacKinnon said the Liberal Party has not made any inquiries with the donors.
"Elections Canada regulates contributions to leadership candidates. The Liberal Party does not," Mr. MacKinnon said.
He said donors to political parties must be Canadian citizens -- in fact landed immigrants can also donate -- and must contribute their own money. "Until we have a reason to believe that neither of those is the case, no action is warranted."
This isn't just about Joe Volpe. It is about the Liberal Party as a whole. There are many who are critical of Volpe, but many more who are not (or at least not until the bad press started), including those in key executive positions.
This is the Liberal Party attitude towards children.
When Communications Director Scott Reid criticized the Conservative plan to give money to parents of children, he worried that Canadian parents would be irresponsible and spend the money on "beer and popcorn".
I guess he was right after all. He just didn't go far enough. I mean, Liberal parents are likely to spend money in the childrens' names on beer, popcorn, and sleazy leadership campaigns.
Too bad there is no way to keep the childcare cheques from going to irresponsible Liberal parents.
Oh well.
The good news is that we have avoided having the Liberal Party implement a nationalized daycare plan. Imagine being compelled to trust these people and their lackeys and supporters with our children.
"OK, children. Today for arts and crafts, we're going to make Liberal campaign buttons! See, volunteer labour does not count againt donation limits. Who can say 'donation'? Very good!"
It's a chilling thought.
More Volpe creepiness: Not just a guy who takes candy (and campaign cheques) from a child, but an enemy of free speech too.
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Posted by: Linda at June 01, 2006 11:24 AM (oCPrU)
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the old party ideas live on . . . wonder if Joe bought any pizzas for the kids .. might explain some of his previous spending.
Posted by: Fred at June 01, 2006 01:37 PM (F3gAV)
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Now, the Libs could save face by honouring the "spirit" of the elections Act:
435.17 A registered party that withdraws its acceptance of a leadership contestant shall file with the Chief Electoral Officer a statement in writing to that effect signed by the chief agent of the party and indicating the date of the withdrawal. The Chief Electoral Officer shall enter the withdrawal of acceptance in the registry of leadership contestants.
2003, c. 19, s. 40.
Posted by: Barley at June 01, 2006 01:54 PM (Z+RKr)
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There should be a criminal investigation into this, it sure smells like the law was broken. A quick look at the bank records of the children would reveal if they were acting on their own.
"The law also includes several clauses making it a crime for any individual to "act in collusion" with others to skirt the ban on corporate donations.
It's illegal to conceal the identity of donors, to compensate a person for making a donation, or to make a donation that actually comes from another person."
Posted by: Stan at June 01, 2006 02:25 PM (Y1ykG)
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Good point Stan. Perhaps we should be contacting Elections Canada to ask for them to conduct an investigation and see exactly what funds these children had in order to personally donate the maximum allowable campaign donation amount. That would be the quickest and most intelligent (thus probably the last thing to be done) thing that Elections Canada could do.
Posted by: Surecure at June 01, 2006 02:44 PM (+tET0)
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These Libranos have no shame. Truth and lies are the same to them. Maybe we should start calling them people of the lie.
The only problem is, they've so brainwashed Canadians into not understanding, themselves, what is fiction and what is fact, what is legal and what is illegal (in their minds, there's no difference), what is truth and what is a falsehood, that it's going to take a long time of honest government--which I believe Stephen Harper and his team are doing their best to provide--to turn perception around.
Listening to The World at Six tonight on the CBC, Joe Volpe is apparently going to give back the kids' money. He claims that he found out ONLY yesterday that children had contributed to his campaign.
Yeah, right, Mr. Volpe. The MSM and everyone else in Canada knew about on Monday, or Tuesday at the latest, and you found out just yesterday?
Hey, that long nose of yours just grew another few inches. Joe Volpenocchio.
Posted by: new kid on the block at June 01, 2006 06:06 PM (9v4BV)
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There is only one way out for the Liberals. They need to lodge a complaint about themselves with the Ethics Commissioner and then Shapiro can clear them. Again.
Posted by: Dave at June 01, 2006 06:15 PM (3fBGv)
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If a Conservative pulled off something like that, the RCMP would have kicked his door in by now and he'd be in jail awaiting trial for Elections infractions, at very least he would have been legally prevented from running.
More Liebral crap and it looks like getting caught isn't enough for stuff to stick to them.
Pat
Posted by: Pat at June 01, 2006 06:36 PM (bxOjK)
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I think these children should be commended! Imagine, being so politically aware at such a young age! Don't you realise how many driveways they had to shovel to raise that kind of money!
Posted by: flurd at June 01, 2006 07:43 PM (jlWxS)
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Angry, don't forget that we already should fear for our children. The Teacher's Union isn't much better than the Liberals.
Posted by: TrustOnlyMulder at June 02, 2006 12:10 AM (Xiqvi)
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There must be some sort of child abuse going on here, children in a normal loving home do not give the Liberals $5,400 dollars.
Perhaps Apotex has developed a new pediatric medication with a political donation as a side effect>
I will have to see if my own medication is avaailable in a non-apotex generic.
Posted by: Dan Bergen at June 02, 2006 10:05 AM (CuuJJ)
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CRUSHING OF DECENT!!
Volpe has spoof website taken down!
http://tinyurl.com/fshd5
Posted by: dude at June 02, 2006 11:37 AM (UCNNF)
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"Where is the Blogger outrage?"
Joe Volpe is a Liberal MP, now in the Opposition benches since the Conservatives took January's election, and has put his name forward for the Liberal Party leadership. It was discovered last week, however, that Volpe had accepted cash donations from the 11-year old twin children of a vice-president of a drug company, a friend of Mr. Volpe's. You're probably all aware of this; it's last week's news.
The issue du jour is this: a web-site was launched, spoofing Volpe's bid for the Liberal Party leadership against a backdrop of taking money from kids. Mr. Volpe had the website taken down:
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20060602.LIBERALSWEB02/TPStory/TPNational/Politics/.
As commentors at smalldeadanimals (http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/004070.html#comments) have pointed out:
"There is such a thing as freedom of speech, something else that Volpe seems to have forgotten. Are we moving into the Muslim cartoons mode of mind, where we will censor any speech that criticizes us, whether by analysis or comic tactics?"
"That Joe Volpe was able to have the spoof site taken down simply by telling the domain name registry to do it speaks volumes about the state of this country. Where is the Blogger outrage about what Volpe was allowed to do? Where is the protest? Why are not bloggers re-posting the spoof site?
The Volpe spoof has been saved at:
http://policycanada.blogspot.com
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"The sums were from children of former Apotex Inc. vice-president Allen Shechtman and were among the 20 donations totalling $108,000 to Mr. Volpe's campaign from five current and former executives of the firm and 15 of their family members."
Where did the children "earn" such money?
Have they paid taxes on it? If not, the proper tax authorities in Canada (in the US we call it the IRS, not sure of the agency in Canada) should investigate these children and charge them accordingly for failure to report income.
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Joe Volpe vs the Child Catcher
From the 1968 movie, "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang", the Child Catcher:
"There are children here. I can smell them."
From the 2006 Liberal leadership race, Joe Volpe:
"There are children here with cheques in their pockets. I can smell them."
This bit of fun was inspired by Youth for Volpe.
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What's the big deal? A $5400 donation will barely pay for a dozen pizzas.Throw in some beer and popcorn and its gone.
Posted by: at June 01, 2006 02:34 PM (zMnsO)
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very true....just go look at Belinda's expence report when they party'd in Ottawa last year...one night out on the town was $5400 with Pizza, beers, and those little umbrella drinks
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Joe Volpe loses the Toronto Star [and some bloggers, too]
Though not from the editorial board, Toronto Star columnist (and Liberal Party booster) James Travers thinks Joe Volpe needs to go, and to me that pretty much means Joe Volpe can't count on the Toronto Star for help:
In a more perfect Liberal leadership contest, Joe Volpe would quit now while Carolyn Bennett struggles to the last ballot on the first weekend in December. By doing the right things for the right reasons, Volpe would help the party shake its past even as Bennett charts its future.
A Liberal party that finally exhausted public patience with serial scandals cannot afford to let a whiff of odour waft around the leadership. That would only boost Conservatives who are doing everything possible - including the transparent stunt of taking Liberals to court over the Quebec advertising horror - to remind voters about the party's affinity for the cookie jar.
Transparent stunt? Well, I did say Travers was a Liberal Party man. Still, he's right about the fact that the Liberals have to appear squeaky clean. Anything less, and they'll never be able to escape that stench of corruption.
Liberal supporters will spin Volpe's troubles as being blown out of proportion, that Volpe is not being given the benefit of the doubt, that everyone plays the "limits" game (and they do). But those with at least some honesty like James Travers (who I suspect has more than just some honesty) will realize that Joe Volpe represents all that is bad about the Liberal Party. That rules are meant to be pushed to the edge. That anything is justified if it means winning. That scandal can be avoided by simply acting offended, as if being Liberal means one can do no wrong.
Joe Volpe's actions, and the response so far, plays into every bad stereotype. And worse yet, he is reinforcing the notion that the Liberal Party is made up of competing crime families -- there's Joe Volpe and the generic drug manufacturers, here's Scott Brison and the Bay Street crowd -- which is so ironic given Joe Volpe's Italian-Canadian roots and his hypersensitivity to mobster parallels.
Hopefully Volpe will listen to Travers. More likely, he'll resist until he can't resist any more, and the Liberals will have a very bitter and angry ex-leadership candidate on their hands.
Can't say I feel too sorry for them.
Update: Several Liberal bloggers are demanding that "sleazy" Joe Volpe immediately exit the leadership race. Will the list grow? Stay tuned for updates:
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There is not enough soap and water in Canada to make the liberals 'squeaky clean'!
Volpe's association with Apotex is not surprising though--after all--Apotex has it's own history. Just heard Pat Martin report that if he goes further with his investigation into the volpe/Apotex donation issue he will be sued by Volpe. Typical Liberal--run to the Liberal appointed court judges to 'prove' he is as pure as the driven snow--not the yellow stuff!
Posted by: George at June 01, 2006 09:14 AM (QtbG/)
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Nice to see nothing has changed with the Libranos. Is Gagliano running Volpe's effort?
Make sure your Huggies are on tight before you go to this website: http://www.youthforvolpe.ca/
It's a scream!
Posted by: gwgm at June 01, 2006 10:02 AM (yJHxc)
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Can someone fill me in on the significance of the birth announcements for the 3 youngest donors? I read a Globe & Mail link and one other story that made mention of a birth announcement, but no details about why or when. I can make a guess. Are they saying that there weren't birth announcements when these kids were born and they are now posted in the newspaper (approx.) 11 and 14 years later, as some sort of technicallity? I noticed there was mention that there is no legal reason they can't donate. Can you donate more or less depending on your age? Help me out what's missing?
This Toronto Star story is interesting about threats of slander when the donations are being questioned. In true Liberal fashion, when they get themselves in too deep, shut 'em up with a law suit. Deny and delay.
Posted by: Cheri at June 01, 2006 10:02 AM (RusDc)
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Dear Tony Robinson, [a few nice words from the scary hidden agenda]
Since February I have actively been working on my commitments.
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I have been meeting with constituents, community groups, neighbourhood associations and other community stakeholders in order to continue providing a strong voice in the government for Vancouver-Kingsway and British Columbia.
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Among these activities:
Working to resolve the softwood lumber conflict with the United States. The framework will help bring stability to the province’s forestry industry and see a return of $4 billion USD in duties to Canadian companies. ÂÂ
Meeting with the Greater Vancouver Gateway Council to discuss how to move ahead on the Pacific Gateway initiative.
Meeting with Prime Minister Harper and Finance Minister Jim Flaherty to ensure the Government’s financial commitment to the Pacific Gateway was expressed in the Budget.
Facilitating a Container Trucking Stakeholder Forum with BC Minister Falcon to discuss a long-term solution for the industry and avoid any labour disruptions at the lower mainland ports.
Meeting with BC Minister Hansen to express continuing federal commitment and active participation to the 2010 Vancouver Olympic Games.
[This is about ½ of the list of business taken care of]
I offered a note of support, and David Emerson*s busy office found the time to thank me for my bit of moral backing.
Taking care of business is the impression I get. Makes me glad I voted the way I did. TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at June 01, 2006 10:27 AM (2GVBQ)
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As much as the Canadian Liberal politic would like to believe the the public tends to have a short memory, I don't think this long standing reputation of corruption and scandal will ever wash off the party.
I think the Liberals will continue to thrash for a while, but ultimately the party will die a painful death similar to what the Mulroney Conservatives did. It has already begun and may be the ONLY way to purge the filth from the party.
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It's not just about kids and money, but about drugs and principles
The story of Joe Volpe playing some sort of inverted Santa Claus and accepting gifts from children is interesting:
The national Liberal Party said yesterday it has no reason to investigate donations to leadership candidate Joe Volpe from current and former executives of a generic drug firm and their relatives, but some Liberal MPs said they have qualms about accepting money from minors.
Mr. Volpe has received donations of $5,400 each from five current and former executives of Apotex Inc. and 15 of their relatives, including some who are under 18.
But the real interesting thing here is not that Volpe and his supporters are playing fast and loose with the rules. It's about who is giving the money:
Apotex chairman Barry Sherman, his wife Honey, and four of his children each donated $5,400, as did Apotex president Jack Kay, his wife Patricia, and two of his children.
A former vice-president of Apotex, Allen Shechtman, his wife Mary, and three of his children, also donated $5,400. Mr. Shechtman told The Globe on Monday that not all of the donors are adults, but did not specify their ages. He did not return a telephone call yesterday.
Bernard "Barry" Sherman of Apotex is a well known name. Apotex is a maker of generic drugs, and as such, is involved in intense lobbying. "Intense" is definitely a word used to describe Barry Sherman:
Sherman's tactics have made him infamous in the industry. Everyone has
a Barry Sherman story. His associates praise his brilliance and
integrity. His detractors say he has a chip on his shoulder, that he's
paranoid, bombastic, opportunistic. Paul Lucas, president of Glaxo
Wellcome Inc., the Canadian arm of Glaxo Wellcome PLC, the world's
largest pharmaceutical company, calls Sherman's conspiracy theories
"ludicrous." Apotex and Novopharm together control the Canadian
generic market in what amounts to an oligopoly, Lucas argues. Even
Dan [Leslie Dan, the chairman of the generic goliath Novopharm Ltd], who juggles his personal dislike for Sherman with the interests
they share as independent generic manufacturers, says Sherman's
litigious, bulldog approach has not been constructive for the sector.
Physician and
pharmaceutical entrepreneur Morton Shulman, who has tussled with
Apotex several times over the years, has called Sherman "the only
person I have ever met with no redeeming features whatsoever."
Nice company Volpe keeps. To be fair, Sherman has some choice words for his competitors too, and as a generic drug manufacturer, his products, which can sell for nearly 20% less than the brand name drugs, have saved the health care system millions.
But then, profitability is what drives the big multi-nationals to find new drugs.
Still, Sherman is more than just a guy looking to make more affordable drugs. He pushes the envelope and gets in trouble for it. Remember that fellow Shechtman who also gave money to Volpe (along with his wife and his three kids, not all of whom were adults)? Shechtman was described as a former VP of Apotex. So two families are donating to Volpe?
Turns out it is the same family, and that Shechtman and Sherman are as close as only two guys who have had run-ins with the FBI can be:
There was also that small clash with the FBI and the U.S. Food and
Drug Administration over a mail-order scheme Sherman engaged in with
his brother-in-law, Allen Shechtman. It involved a Bahamas-based
company called Medicine Club International Inc., which mailed
Apotex-manufactured generic drugs, including generic Prozac and
Deprenyl, from Canada to 500,000 households in the United States
without prescription. The FBI was allegedly tipped off by U.S. drug
manufacturers, no fans of Sherman.
In 1995, Medicine Club pleaded guilty to one count of illegal
interstate commerce and was fined $500,000 (U.S.) for selling drugs
without approval. It was also forced to pay $339,000 for investigative
costs.
So Shechtman and Sherman are brothers-in-law and partners in crime. Eleven members of this extended family has signed cheques to Volpe for $5,400 each.
For a guy who is so hyper-sensitive to jokes relating the Liberals to organized crime, Joe Volpe really doesn't make an effort to avoid the whole "crime family" thing.
But back to the issue of generic drugs and patent protection. Do you think Joe Volpe is going to promote a particular position when it comes to generic drugs?
Bill C-91 was passed by the Mulroney Conservatives in 1993, and it extended patent protection for name brand drugs to twenty years. In part, it was done as a realignment of Canadian laws to meet NAFTA obligations. The Liberals opposed the legislation intensely. True to form, though, when they formed the government in 1993, the Liberals became strong supporters of C-91. This was because the name brand manufacturers are headquartered in Quebec, and any law that guaranteed their profitability was a sure vote-getter in Quebec.
Principles be dammed when votes are to be had, right?
C-91 required that the effect of the new law be reviewed in 1997. By then the Liberals were in power, and so had an opportunity to kill the bill and make it easier for Canadian generic drug manufacturers to make their knock-offs.
The review in 1997 was conducted by David Dingwall, then the Minister of Health, and the end result is that C-91 is still the law of the land today.
Of course, we all remember David Dingwall for getting in trouble in 2005 for accepting $350,000 in continency fees as a lobbyist from Bioniche. Bioniche is, as it turns out, a pharmaceutical company with original discoveries to protect, including drug discoveries.
I'm not passing judgment on C-91. But the money involved in the realm of pharmaceutical patents is huge, and it looks like the players are shopping for potential ministers and prime ministers that can be counted upon to push their side of the debate. And these people are not satisfied with the ethical or financial strengths of their positions -- the stakes are too great. They are willing to throw lots of money around to make sure the right people are convinced the the righteousness of their position.
Liberal David Dingwall was a friend of the name-brand manufacturers, and was caught pulling a $350,000 cookie out of the cookie jar.
Today it looks like the generic drug manufacturers have found another Liberal, leadership candidate Joe Volpe, willing to argue the other side.
Seems like there are no right answers, or even principled positions, when it comes to the Liberal Party. On any issue, you are likely to find a senior member of the party who will take up your cause -- for consideration, of course. And when you don't have principles, accepting money from children is easy.
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go easy on poor old "juicyfruit" he is entitled to his entitlements after all and if volpe wants to take candy from babies that too is ok. remember we're talking about the libranos, and it's not important how you play the game as long as you win that's all that matters.
Posted by: kelly at May 31, 2006 09:34 PM (/IrGj)
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Infantile policy is standard for the Liberal Party of Toronto, so his constituent rich kids naturally support this fraud. And he'll pay them off handsomely as soon as he has the power, that's how the Party works.
Posted by: infidel at May 31, 2006 11:24 PM (7pBiD)
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These kind of posts are your forte, and why I keep coming back. However, in my mind, this would be more convincing if there were any evidence that Volpe has supported or will support legislation favouring generic drug mfrs.
Posted by: Ben H at May 31, 2006 11:26 PM (D2c8R)
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I consider Joe volpe as an "also ran" in the final leadership vote round, so it might be more useful if some reporter asked Rae or Ignatieff for their position on generic drugs. Crickets, chirp, chirp...
If C91 was passed in 1993, I wonder what drugs lose patent protection in 2013. The actual battle may be about extending additional rights. Joe's position in the party may be of some influence.
I have not looked at C91 specifically, but there is provision in patent law whereby if the original patent holder is not promoting or using the patent in Canada, any individual or group can petition the Patent Office for the right to use the patent. Some reporter might look around to see if certain drug patents are not being used. Crickets, chirp, chirp.....
Posted by: john at June 01, 2006 04:27 AM (3Z9LX)
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The embedding of Apotex in Ontario Liberals goes further than Volpe. Elie Betito, the corporate director, was Bonnie Brown's (Lib,Oakville) campaign chair in the last election, until the infamous "take your gun-loving ass and go back to the States" comment that forced him to resign. While in the campaign position, he was using the corporate resources of Apotex to support the campaign (email networks, perhaps others). Al Rock was a counsel for Apotex before he decided he was a better accountant than a lawyer (the registry will only cost $2 million , really. Did I tell you that only those of us in power should have guns?). Not only should Volpe be looked at by the the Liberals, the entire Apotex/Liberal symbiosis should be looked at by the RCMP.
Posted by: Skip at June 01, 2006 05:01 AM (SoUzy)
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I don't see the problem. By the time my children were all 11 years old they had each saved up $54.00 to give to the political candidate of their choice. I didn't tell them which one to choose!
Oops. I thought the $5400.00 was a typo. My bad!
Posted by: Paul at June 01, 2006 07:42 AM (nlevv)
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As I recall, Apotex paid their staff to volunteer for Liberal candidates in the 1995 Ontario election.
Posted by: Joan Tintor at June 01, 2006 03:31 PM (L7sPk)
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Another tip of the iceberg, sickening when you think about how LITTLE the public know of the truth , however, one day it will come forth then look out the people involved.
Ben H,for Pete`s sake get with it man.
What is needed in Ottawa is a modern day Guy Foulks with a remote control.
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