June 04, 2008
The tape that wasn't there
The Chuck Cadman story takes another strange turn. The question of whether the Conservatives offered some sort of bribe to Chuck Cadman in 2005 to rejoin the Conservatives and bring down Paul Martin's government has already been put to rest with the RCMP reporting "no evidence" to support such an allegation.
But there is still the matter of the lawsuit filed by Prime Minister Stephen Harper against the Liberal Party for having published statements on the website to the effect that Stephen Harper knew of a bribe.
Part of the lawsuit hinged on a tape recording, a tape recording that the Conservatives now say has been doctored.
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December 13, 2007
John Mark Karr is looking for a job that requires a criminal background check
John Mark Karr is famous for having masterfully played the American justice system. Picked up in Thailand on charges related to sex with children, Karr immediately confessed to some ill-defined connection to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey in Colorado. Karr, who fled the United States when he was picked up on child pornography charges in California, was deported by American authorities eager to close this high profile case.
This despite growing concerns that Karr was making the entire thing up, something I suggested the very day the story broke of John Mark Karr's arrest and confession.
As it turned out, Karr was making the entire thing up. Once he was safely out of Thailand, Karr could only laugh when the Ramsey charges were dropped when the evidence clearly showed Karr had nothing to do with the murder. As for the charges in California, those were dropped too, as it was revealed that in the years that had passed, the evidence was lost.
So John Mark Karr is a free man. And with no criminal convictions or outstanding charges, he can apply for any job he likes.
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November 13, 2007
Is Karlheinz Schreiber doing a John Mark Karr play?
The more I look at the circumstances around Karlheinz Schreiber's allegations involving Brian Mulroney and Stephen Harper, the more I wonder whether Karlheinz Schreiber is borrowing a page from John Mark Karr's playbook.
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October 07, 2006
This terrifying moment was brought to you by ABC
A notorious alleged pedophile is seen peering through the window of your youngster's school. Should you be alarmed? Not this time. It was only John Mark Karr, and he was there under the supervision of ABC's "Good Morning America".
What the hell were they thinking over at ABC?
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Steve - your question about what ABC was thinking about contains an assumption that I would have to question - that the people over at ABC are capable of serious thinking.
Posted by: Brian in Calgary at October 07, 2006 07:11 PM (ocKcD)
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Pedophiles become celebrities--brought to you by the MSM--why is anyone surprised?
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October 05, 2006
John Mark Karr: Not the end of the story
John Mark Karr has been set free. As I predicted, way back in the beginning. We will hear of John Mark Karr again -- either as victimizer or victim. Which I'm not sure.
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I heard somewhere in all this scandal nonsense that the republican congressional leadership wanted Congressman Foley to run for the Senate - what happened to kibosh that?
Was it because he couldn't leave his pages behind?
Posted by: at October 05, 2006 08:48 PM (DAqd+)
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...tell me where else does a known criminal get first class airfare with champagne, delivered from a court case in which he was guilty and then set free?
Only in Canada eh?
Whoops, this is happening in the States too?
Gosh.
Posted by: tomax7 at October 06, 2006 09:34 AM (jHhd0)
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...hey Steve, me thinks there was more on the computer's hard drives than pictures of kiddies.
As in, Boulder cops, justice and other high ranking people in, uh, compromising situations.
What I dont' get is why don't they ship him back to Thia? Doesn't the US have agreements with them, otherwise how'd he manage to get over here.
So ship him back and let him taste Thia laws. Then again, he was probably a honey pot for the government in their fabricated show of doing justice when child prostitution is one of their major industries...
Posted by: tomax7 at October 06, 2006 09:39 AM (jHhd0)
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They can't send him to Thailand. One the Thais deported him without a hearing, that means they forgo the right to have him return. Two he could argue that Thai jails are cruel and unusual punishment and it is hard to imagine that a court in the US would disagree. This was a screw up from start to finish. Hopefully Steve's second prediction is the one that comes true.
Posted by: phil at October 06, 2006 10:45 PM (PTGOE)
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...i wonder why Thai deported him in the first place.
Guess I should read the news more so in the first place as maybe this would be answered, but I don't do that - read/watch the views, err, news.
When I first heard about it here I thought "oh good, they caught JB's killer". Then after hearing his ex-wife say he was with her on Christmas, I'm thinking, "oh no, another Scott Peterson mess in the making".
I mean, don't authorities check these things out first?
First class, champagne, lost computers, me thinks there are a few names the higher ups don't want made public.
Maybe he serviced them? All 'good' hookers keep a black book list.
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September 28, 2006
John Mark Karr, Marc Dutroux, Karla Homolka
Three pedophiles who benefited from police incompetence. In the case of Belgium's Marc Dutroux, more children died before he was finally recaptured. In the case of Canada's Karla Homolka, she was given a light sentence as a result of an unnecessary plea bargain. In the case of America's John Mark Karr, he is likely to go free very soon, the charges against him dismissed.
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Yeah, and Zaccardelli's probably going to only get a slap on the wrist too. And yes, i really cheesed off.
http://www.thiscanada.com/2006/09/28/zaccardelli-must-go/
Posted by: Erik Sorenson at September 28, 2006 07:21 PM (TfPle)
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...while I hope they have a change of heart (repent) while they still walk on this earth, what awaits them after death is not a pleasant thought.
There will be justice. Why not now? Freedom of choice. As a society we've chosen to be neutered towards crime.
Social programming from birth. Government will look after you, minorities are always the victum, and men are neanderthal dunder heads.
Oh yeah, and Conservative minded folks are scary.
Posted by: tomax7 at September 28, 2006 11:43 PM (jHhd0)
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Two things have always puzzled me about Karla's slap on the wrist. The first is the one Steve mentioned above: Marion Boyd's meddling that had so terrorized crown attorneys with her mantra that all men were bad and all women were good. Guess who gave Boyd the job and free rein to do her damage: Bob Rae, that's who.
Secondly, any criminal worth his or her salt knows that if you tell really big lies as part of a plea bargain, the deal is off. We were bombarded with the even bigger lie that if the crown reneged on the deal it could never get any future deals. Pure bullcrap as Glenn Beck would say. One bit of proof: when Law and Order did an episode on Karla they changed the ending so that she was given a much stiffer sentence. They couldn't believe that our crown attorneys could be so clueless and stupid.
Posted by: Tom in Mississauga at September 29, 2006 05:01 AM (W52zx)
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C'mon Steve, did you actually think the police solved crimes through clever investigative procedures. That's only on CSI, Law and Order et al. Actual police work now is convincing people to rat out others through coercion, fear or reward. Officers go to public schools explaining to children what their parents and neighbours might be doing that the police would be interested in. When someone is charged with an offence, the loopholes, deals and protection afforded them usually results in minimal punishment at best.
Posted by: rick at September 29, 2006 07:26 AM (qe9Nn)
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Do the "best and brightest" seek out boring jobs that pay, at maximum,$65,000 per year?
Posted by: dmorris at September 29, 2006 08:22 AM (iNlUz)
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The folks in Ottawa must sleep well at night knowing that the main bungler of the Homolka case is now their chief of police. Only in government can incompetence get rewarded. First Bevan then Boniface...
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John Mark Karr: Luckiest pervert in history, or getting a helping hand?
John Mark Karr is going to walk free. It's playing out just as I expected. But the coincidences are mounting and I can't help but think there is yet another layer to this story.
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...me thinks there was more people invovled (on the computer hd's) than the local authorities on high want people to know.
Kinda reminds me of J. Edgar Hoover and his Mr. (Mrs?) Dressup specials.
Posted by: tomax7 at September 28, 2006 12:33 PM (jHhd0)
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Or the Niagara police department of the 80's and Paul Bernardo's links to it..
Do some digging you'll find some odd stuff there, maybe all speculation, like this, or maybe more.
Posted by: Stephen at September 28, 2006 12:47 PM (wtbPM)
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I still think the US attorneys who brought him over should round up Mr. Karr, take him out to dinner, apologizes profusely and escort him (for his own safety) back to Thailand.
Posted by: at September 28, 2006 02:34 PM (Xka+p)
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Angry,
You have a knack of digging into stories that have taste, in the sense of something's going on. But what? I agree that there appears to be orgamisation to this chaos, but where, and to what purpose, I have absolutely no idea.
Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at September 28, 2006 07:52 PM (5c7ml)
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Huffington Post had a similar observation. I can't remember where I read it, but there was a long and informed essay arguing that Karr's case was broken to distract the public from another, serious defeat of Bush's civil liberties curbs in court.
Michael
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IF I were a JUDGE , or aspiring PROSECUTOR. or even a DEFENSE LAYER/CONSULTANT, who "dabbled" in kiddie porn, I'd want to protect ..ah..er.. one of my own.
Not as strange as it sounds. Most of us adults have seen enough "official" corruption, to last a lifetime. No kiddie porn enthusiast would want to have his/her name associated in any way with publicly named suspects.
Paranoid?
No. Just been around...
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September 21, 2006
The evidence against John Mark Karr has been lost
Yet again, John Mark Karr catches a break.
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Send him back to Thailand. I hear it's nice lately.
Posted by: Dante at September 21, 2006 01:18 PM (r63g0)
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It's not quite that bleak, Steve. There are procedures to maintain the chain of evidence, even when dealing with mere electrons. It is not as if the HD image was just sitting out there on a publicly shared drive that any old police officer could look through. There will be network and physical safeguards and so on to protect it from tampering.
Most businesses can manage to pull it off this sort of security without a giant hassle. Shouldn't be too hard for the police.
Posted by: Chris Taylor at September 21, 2006 03:38 PM (H0lcY)
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Actually, it shouldn't be *that* much of a problem. As Chris points out, for EVERY piece of evidence in a criminal trial, the D.A. must establish a chain of evidence, that can only be done by testimony of the police officers who handled the evidence and had it stored (unless the defence consents to evidence being admitted, which in cases like this is rare).
For example, if the computer wasn't missing, and it was properly seized, secured, dated, initialled and stored for trial, the defence lawyer can still raise many of the questions you have: "this is the computer seized? my client said it is not. how do we know that this hard drive did not have kiddie porn placed on it by the officers, etc"
In both scenarios, the defence's theory is based on a conspiracy by police to fabricate/tamper with evidence. But there is no evidence of such a conspiracy. If the judge/jury believes the police officers and there is some evidence to corroborate that child porn had been seized or located on the computer hard drive, it shouldn't be terminal to the DA's case.
But what do I know? I'm not a judge, just a citizen with commonsense.
Posted by: JW at September 21, 2006 04:55 PM (uU0hH)
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The other thing to keep in mind is that there's going to be more of an electronic trail there than just 5 bad images. Somehow the police got tipped to these images and it is unlikely that one of Karr's friends or neighbours saw these things on his screen from afar and decided to phone it in.
More than likely he downloaded it from somewhere, and more than likely that source got logged if not busted. The police will know both the source of the images and the receiver -- either of which will be Karr. Karr's own browser or e-mail history plus his ISP's logs will testify against him, proving that the computer in question did such and such activity on such and such a date, and guess whose internet account was using that IP at the time and date those pictures were transmitted?
So it's not as if the images are the only evidence. Some kind of activity tipped police to Karr's posession of those files, and that activity will have generated logs of its own, somewhere. And the smart policeman will have nabbed those too. So my guess is that Karr's going to the crossbar hotel even if his compter was lost.
I have had to provide testimony in these sorts of cases and it's rare for the evidence to get discounted. Electronic activity leaves a BIG evidence trail on multiple sources; clearing the paper trail is not as simple as wiping your browser cache and history.
Posted by: Chris Taylor at September 21, 2006 05:19 PM (H0lcY)
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I say he caught a well-deserved break. The only thing linking Karr to JonBenet was his admission of guilt, which was almost universally understood to be not on the level. They went through this huge expense and show to get him to Colorado to have the charges dismissed, and then "conveniently" extradited to California on porn charges. I suspect Thailand wouldn't even extradict him on those charges, but did on the murder. So this is looking like a classic bait and switch, and I had long figured that if the U.S. wanted Karr on a porno charge they should request permission from the Thai on that basis.
This looks like a well-deserved botch.
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September 20, 2006
John Mark Karr to go free
John Mark Karr has been offered a deal that will see him walk free.
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This all seems very odd when the Colorado case fell apart and it looked very much like this entire "Jon Benet" nonsense was just using Karr's obviously fake claims of guilt as an excuse to haul him over to the U.S. via California in order to get him in front of a judge on a misdemeanor porn charge.
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September 13, 2006
John Mark Karr: Reaching for the consolation prize
John Mark Karr used a bogus confession to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey to escape from Thailand where he was caught getting a bit too close to little girls. American prosecutors flew him out of Thailand, and then within a week, watched the Ramsey case fall to pieces when the physical evidence proved he wasn't involved. Of course, they couldn't send him back to Thailand -- he's a US citizen, and Thailand isn't seeking extradition. So Karr is facing an old child pornography charge in California. It too will pass, and Karr will walk free -- no record, no parole, no restrictions on his movements.
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Yet again the North American style justice/entertainment system fails.
If the physical DNA evidence was needed to definitively ID Karr as the perpretator, why didn't the prosecution ask for tissue/blood samples from the Thai authorities before having him sent back to the US? They would have been able to see that his background could make him a LIKELY suspect by running his name through the system, but the DNA evidence would have sealed the deal. Then they could have left him there to deal with the charges against him in Thailand knowing that justice would be served and he would no longer be a threat to anybody in the US.
But the North American justice/entertainment system isn't about protection of the citizens, it's about profile, sensationalism, and making a name for yourself.
Given the media attention this case has previously received, the "upholders of the law" saw an opportunity to increase thier profile by "seeing justice served". But you got to have they guy here to get that front page coverage! Karr knew exactly how to play this system and what weaknesses to exploit.
If our lawyers were as interested in justice as they are in making a name for themselves on a high profile case....we would have the effective justice system we need.
Like Thailand.
Posted by: Jan Schaafsma at September 13, 2006 12:08 PM (Joh8X)
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He should be in a Thai jail.
Posted by: FREE at September 13, 2006 12:24 PM (OX66V)
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"But the North American justice/entertainment system isn't about protection of the citizens, it's about profile, sensationalism, and making a name for yourself"
The same could be said of bloggers.....
Posted by: at September 13, 2006 03:13 PM (jYZIJ)
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I'm sure if it does happen as you suggest, the crew at http://absolutezerounited.blogspot.com/ will be the albatross around his neck. He might be out of prison, but he won't be forgotten, nor will he be free.
Posted by: Dave at September 13, 2006 07:48 PM (xoXVY)
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Walks away, scott-free...kinda like Gene Crouton and the pack-of-thief-liars, the Libranos.
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August 28, 2006
John Mark Karr's plan works
He didn't do it. That was obvious on August 17.
John Mark Karr has been cleared of any involvement in the JonBenet Ramsey murder. He faces other child pornography charges, but with the media circus surrounding the Ramsey case, he'll never get a fair trial, and he'll probably walk free. Thanks to Boulder prosecutor Mary Lacy, he'll be walking to a school near you.
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You called it!
Too bad.
It's not all bad news. He will be watched in the US. In Thailand, at least the police have ended his career there.
Posted by: PlaidShirt at August 28, 2006 07:41 PM (Nu5kV)
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Steve, I was 100% in the belief this guy didn't do it. He needed an out from Thailand and the ploy worked.
But I still want to know why we care in Canada. This is just some whack job that has covered every major press front page in the USA AND CANADA??
I ask why?? Everytime something like this happens, the media circus swarming it is so the media is not looking at something bigger and more important.
Posted by: TrustOnlyMulder at August 28, 2006 08:24 PM (Xiqvi)
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Hey the Thailand police got rid of him... permanetly, and they look like the good guys... how is this bad from their perspective.
Whats the real crime here is how badly the investigators have screwed up the entire Ramsey case. I think we've all seen to many cases where the police "fixate" on the "cuplrit" to the exclusion of all other possiblities...
Posted by: Sierra at August 29, 2006 10:28 AM (CHE53)
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I think the least the US authorities can do is return Mr. Karr to Thailand. For free, but economy class this time. Let the Thais decide what they wish to do with him. If the California DA wants him, they can pay for Karr to come from Thailand.
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August 24, 2006
More evidence of John Mark Karr's plan
It sure seems like John Mark Karr was working very hard to get out of Thailand.
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Then should he not be sent back to Thailand to face whatever charges they may have for him?
Posted by: at August 24, 2006 03:07 PM (DFwV1)
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Let him be convicted of the U.S. equivalent of mischief or obstruction of justice or whatever the nearest charge is for lying to the authorities about the case, serve his brief sentence in the general pop. (because he's not really a child molestor, you see, he just committed a con/mischief type offence), and then extradite him to Thailand after he's served his sentence.
Posted by: Chris from Victoria, BC at August 24, 2006 07:12 PM (L8rdZ)
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Ow!! Chris! I like your thinking.
Mind you I posting with little hope of it being accepted.
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I've considered the possibility but I think he would be able make the plausible argument that as an American citizen on US soil, honouring an extradition request would result in him suffering cruel and unusual punishment. He would claim, and quite possible be granted, constitutional protection against extradition to Thailand.\
In any case, the Thai authorities allowed him to leave their jurisdiction. He might also make the case that they waived their right to try him by deporting him. Deportation was his ex-judicial punishment imposed by the Thai government, without even benefit of a trial.
Remember he wasn't extradited, he was deported. You can't deport someone you've arrested, then just ask for him to be sent back. You had him, you let him go, you blew your chance. Again, a valid argument, I think.
Posted by: Steve Janke at August 24, 2006 10:11 PM (chl+O)
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In American courts, like our own, extradition courts look at whether there is sufficient evidence to convict. Unlike Canada if he puts forth the defense of threat of torture, death. Generally it doesn't wash in the US. There's a recent case for that I'm going to look for it. Later
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August 23, 2006
John Mark Karr: What is he planning to do?
John Mark Karr, who confessed to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey and so was whisked out of Thailand where he was facing sexual assault charges, is acting like a man about to recant his statements. Was this all a ploy to be rescued before being thrown into a hellish Thai prison?
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August 20, 2006
John Mark Karr: Deportation versus Extradition
John Mark Karr has been deported from Thailand, not extradited to the United States. The result might be the same in terms of his airline ticket, but the subtle difference between the two processes might shed some light on what is going on behind the scenes.
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New information shows that Karr wanted a sex change which was cheaper in Thailand, but the situation with possible criminal changes appears to have swayed the Government towards a Deportation for whatever undisclosed reasons.
Media spin or misinformation can cause serious backlash, and one example in Canada was the "Racism" protests by the MCC's Tarek Fatah when 26 Illegals in Canada were rounded-up and then deportered .
The MCC and Fatah focused on the Sunni-Muslim males from Pakistan and portrayed it a random arrests with detentions and no Charges laid , but we now see that deporting those 18 Pakistani Illegals may have save us a U.K. style Terrorism attack by boarding planes in Canada as suicide-bombers on 747's like the Air-India slaughter .
But now we have a serious Militant eliment of Islam in Toronto which claims to stem from maltreatment towards Muslims, Mr.Fatah incited a disdain for canada which may have formented in the Brampton-17 which were home-grown terrorists lead by a adult Cleric preaching hate for a few years.
Karr may end up a scam artist with vivid dreams of a repeat of "Dog day afternoon" to pay for the sex change and get a plane to the USA while holding the media hostage .
Karr is play both Leon and Sonny .
Posted by: roger at August 21, 2006 06:49 AM (GIL7z)
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They are not even sure if the DNA matches. There has been no mention of DNA match. If there is one the media should be informed
Posted by: Notes at August 21, 2006 08:12 AM (0L4ra)
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"For the sake of Mary Lacy, the Boulder County District Attorney, John Mark Karr better be the man responsible, or else she might have just helped a potential sex offender escape from Thailand into the United States."
It seems to me that Karr belongs back in the U.S., as he's an American citizen. The poor Thai people hardly need another North American pedophile molesting their children.
But now that he's back in the U.S., prosecutors have to find a way to keep the guy off the streets and out of the schools. If he is guilty of the JonBenet murder, not a problem: He goes to jail.
But if he's not guilty of the Ramsey murder, then the prosecutors have got to find a way to keep the guy away from innocent children.
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John Mark Karr: Former DA promotes theory that Karr is acting rationally
An official once close to the JonBenet Ramsey investigation is putting forward a theory (offered on this blog three days ago) concerning the confession of John Mark Karr -- that John Mark Karr is not offering a fake confession as the action of a sick and twisted mind, but as part of a cleverly planned deception motivated by rational self-interest.
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This is the theory my wife and I immediatly thought of. Just to avoid a Thai jail.The US should call his bluff and leave him to Thai justice before extraditing him. After a few years in a Thai jail he will be a bit different, if indeed still alive.
Posted by: Pissedoff at August 20, 2006 10:13 AM (Csl4/)
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From everything I've read so far, it's obvious that your average (never mind sociopathic) human being, would confess to killing JFK to avoid even a short stint in a Thai prison.
Posted by: neo at August 20, 2006 10:23 AM (/9W+d)
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1) Definite possibility, benefit to avoiding thai prisons and a free ticket home
2) IF he really does know hidden details the question is how?
i) Someone in the close circle spoke
ii) He is the killer
iii) He is connected to the killer....if he is a pedo then I am sure the killer has spoken within that sicko community
Posted by: Stephen at August 20, 2006 10:37 AM (upnxu)
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For the record he is being deported, not extridited by the US for alleged links to the Ramsey death.
Also, a Canadian that was used by the FBI as a knot expert revealed the gerrot used to choke Jon Benet was very intricate and unique , Karr only needs to be tossed a long piece of matching string and reproduce the knot used at the crime scene.
The Media frenzy is obsessed with DNA and finger prints to match the evidence collected at the home, but that might only proved Karr wasn't
alone and the other persons prints were found.
BTW, autopsy photos are at Ogrish.org and the claim of it being an accident reeks of one big lie.
Posted by: robert walden at August 20, 2006 12:02 PM (dFvAh)
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I'd like to know the connection he had with the Ramsey family, if any. Not saying that they are to blame for his actions, of course they are not....but how does a sicko like him get access to a little girl who is brought up in a well-to-do family.
I wonder what other crimes he may have committed in the far east....a place where child prostitution is rampant. Interesting that he would choose Thailand.
Posted by: anonymous at August 20, 2006 12:34 PM (tyzJl)
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Ummm....I hate to be a wet blanket because I thought this might be a well planned escape from after abusing young Thai children, but my question is this.
If he is found to be not guilty in the Ramsay murder, what is there to prevent him from being extradited right back to Thailand if they have some dirt on him there?
Posted by: TrustOnlyMulder at August 20, 2006 04:21 PM (Xiqvi)
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I can't get myself to look at the autopsy photos. It's enough to know what happened to this little girl: 6 going on 16. What was she doing in the basement of her house, when the family home was huge by the looks of it? Kids usually only sleep in the basement when there isn't a bedroom upstairs...
How much is it going to cost the U.S. to deal with this guy's claims? It's quite clear from the photos of Karr and the news footage that he's a sicko, and it wouldn't surprise me at all if we learn that he's been sexually abusing his female students in Thailand.
What was he fired for? How did he move from job to job in the U.S.? It seems it's been too easy for him to get around. Whatever his connection with the JonBenet Ramsey tragedy, I think this guy should be locked up. I'm sure law enforcement can find something to stick to him, in order to stop him from preying on innocent children.
Posted by: 'been around the block at August 20, 2006 05:17 PM (30pO8)
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Was this guy even in the state at the time of the killing, I may have missed it but nothing I have heard puts him in the location?
Posted by: ian at August 21, 2006 01:51 PM (KqGpk)
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ian: Some account said at one point that he'd lived down the street from the Ramsey's but I can't confirm that. His ex-wife says she's sure he was at home with her and the kids the Christmas that JonBenet Ramsey was killed.
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Posted by: 'been around the block at August 21, 2006 03:29 PM (//kMp)
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SO now Mr. Karr's family hires a media publisist to handle any media deals? WTF?? Looks like the only way his family will stand by him is if they cam make a buck. Don Henley was right.. "give us dirty laundry"
I hope they make lots of deals and then he turns out to be some whack-job looking for attention that his mommy didnt give him.
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August 17, 2006
John Mark Karr's pre-planned escape from Thailand
Is John Mark Karr's confession to the murder of JonBenet Ramsey just a carefully prepared means of escaping Thai justice?
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yep you're on track. I saw this as fishy right from the get go.The pictures of him obviously OTL , and his ex-wife saying he was with him. Makes total sense... today, I'm looking forward to further developments.
Posted by: Fergy at August 17, 2006 10:02 PM (kJ1aT)
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I thought he looked very weak and thin as if he picked up aids from his lifestyle in Thailand , with a time bomb that could kill him in the near future what better way to go out as a piece of the JonBenet puzzle and more conspiracy theories to link him to Elvis,Bigfoot,Roswell,9/11 ,Jimmy Hoffa, area 51 , JFK , Castro and even a weather machine that made it snow to cover his tracks.
The yahoo wants fame and free-heath care while in custody , but soon the Canadian expert on knots will want him to make the same complex knot used on JonBenet.
Forget all the publically released news and evidence, just make the knot and then hang the bastard.
Posted by: roger at August 18, 2006 04:00 AM (fEnUg)
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This thought occured to me as well.
Would the US government send him back to Tailand if it turned out he is lying?
Posted by: Wimpy Canadian at August 18, 2006 07:39 AM (T7dgX)
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Would the US government send him back to Tailand if it turned out he is lying?
He would argue that sending him to Thailand would constitute cruel and unusual punishment. He would probably win that argument, too.
Posted by: Steve Janke at August 18, 2006 07:44 AM (pFrk8)
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Lets hope and pray he has to deal with the crimes he commited in Thailand first.
Posted by: FREE at August 18, 2006 12:43 PM (e2wvr)
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He was already running from a 5 year old child porn charge in Petaluma, Cal. If the JonBenet bid goes belly up the US will keep him for the California charge.
Polly Klass's father said something very interesting about this icky creep: I don't think he is guilty, and if he is not that points the finger of suspicion right back where it has been for the last 10 years.
Posted by: bijoux55 at August 18, 2006 01:28 PM (DagOX)
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Jonbenet case was long solved . the brother caused this with rage and jealousy and Karr was involved by the son Burke. To protect the son Burke the Ramsey's denied everything. Eventually Karr's conscience was telling him to contact the mother who was dying of cancer.
He is not the killer, but some one who assisted in the whole deal
Posted by: Hanson at August 19, 2006 02:23 PM (RL3y1)
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