November 30, 2005
RCMP Investigation: Lousy timing for the Liberals
Being subject to a criminal investigation during an election being fought largely on the question of ethics sounds like something from a sitcom.
It's hard to imagine a worse possible time:
The RCMP have begun a review of reported heavier-than-usual trading in income trusts and dividend-paying stocks ahead of an announcement last week that the federal government was increasing the tax credit on corporate dividends.
NDP finance critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis sent a letter of complaint to the Royal Canadian Mounted Police earlier this week requesting the probe into whether Bay Street insiders received advance knowledge of the announcement, Staff Sgt. Paul Marsh told Bloomberg News.
"The RCMP will review the information provided to determine if there is a basis to proceed with a criminal investigation," Marsh said.
"It would be inappropriate to speculate what action may or may not be taken."
Not just the RCMP, but other stock market regulators as well.
Finance Minister Ralph Goodale denied allegations that information was leaked.
Expect a lot of airplay, as well as some very pointed questions aimed at Paul Martin from the other party leaders during the leadership debates.
You have to wonder if maybe the Prime Minister should have taken the opposition up on its offer to start the election in mid-January.
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Stock market regulators are also reviewing trading that took place ahead of Finance Minister Ralph Goodale's tax policy announcement, Doug Maybee, a spokesman at Market Regulation Services Inc., told The Globe and Mail.
"The markets did move prior to Mr. Goodale's announcement, there's no denying of that," he said.
"What caused the markets to move, that's something we're still looking into."
The Conservatives have also called for the Ontario Securities Commission to investigate the matter.
But Ontario MPP Gerry Phillips, the minister responsible for overseeing the Ontario Securities Commission, rejected such a move on Tuesday.
"You're treading onto very dangerous ground if you're telling the OSC what cases it should investigate," he said in the legislature, saying it would be commensurate to political meddling.
Same article towards the bottom.
Just curious is Gerry a Liberal?
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 04:20 PM (PsShO)
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It says Gerry's a minister, so given that ON has a Liberal government..... Yes, Gerry's a Liberal.
Posted by: Mike H at November 30, 2005 04:32 PM (CDbmG)
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Nope. The RCMP will find no wrong doing in a couple weeks making the Liberals look squeeky clean. Here is some interesting info...
UPDATE: On November 18th of this year Ralph Goodale stated publicly that he expected to make a decision about income trusts in January of 2006. Five days later his friends on bay street were franticly buying income trust stock in advance of his announcement the next day. The PUBLIC was lead to believe that a decision was months away but several special friends apparently knew otherwise. Mr. Goodale claims to have made his intentions known in advance to the general public. Mr. Goodale, this is the only public article I can see where you address this issue and you clearly state that a decision can be expected next year...
http://www.cbc.ca/story/business/national/2005/11/18/trusts-051118.html
Posted by: ferrethouse at November 30, 2005 04:55 PM (//hWt)
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If the RCMP move quickly on their investigation and make an announcement that benefits the Liberal Party before election day then this might not hurt the Liberals much if any.
If anyone thinks that these "other stock market regulators" are the least concerned about the small investor then they need to go to school on this. These guys work for the big boys that control these markets. In my opinion many of these people are probably connected to the Liberal Party, or at least to the governing party.
I have a couple observations.
As to the RCMP, they have shown their allegiance to the Liberal Party on other issues in the past. Why would they not do so now? And why were they so fast to launch this investigation? Were they prompted to do so?
As to the "other stock market regulators", why would they do anything to endanger the cozy relationships they've built up over the last, what, 13 years unless they, too, were asked to do so?
Somehow I expect a quick investigation and a quick exoneration of Finance Minister Ralph Goodale and his office. Either that or some office lackey will take a fall he now knows nothing about and does not suspect.
Then again, maybe this is just how things work in this area. I dunno. The rich get richer sorta thing.
One closing thought. Markets are connected these days and borders mean nothing. Has anyone heard of a similar investigation being launched in the US? Mail fraud? That might be interesting. They put people in jail for things like that down there.
Posted by: John Crittenden at November 30, 2005 05:05 PM (q3a5q)
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I was under the impression that the RCMP had gone from Dudley Doright and Due South to being underlings of the liberals. Am I wrong in that? If not, I don't see anything coming of it but a declaration of innocence (which has likely already been typed up).
Posted by: Jay at November 30, 2005 05:38 PM (PIbeE)
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John and Jay--you are absolutely right on all counts.
Posted by: George at November 30, 2005 06:31 PM (HtUai)
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Interesting idea about any stock trading that happened in the US markets. If any American investors got screwed as a result of the insider info the SEC could jump on it. In fact, just a shareholder who didn't get screwed writing a letter to the SEC might result in something. And the investigation and news could be a lot bigger in the US about it than it would be in Canada.
OTOH if a criminal decision was made Canada would refuse to extradite anyway so maybe the SEC would just decide there was no point in bothering.
Posted by: Jay at November 30, 2005 06:41 PM (PIbeE)
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Never ascribe to malice, what can be more easily explained through incompetence.
What if it wasnÂ’t an inside tip, but a screw-up that set things off last Wednesday?
ThereÂ’s just something about the behaviour on Wednesday & Thursday of Ralph Goodale and John MacKay, his Parliamentary Secretary, that doesnÂ’t add up. They seem so rushed, disorganized and off-the-cuff. They were actually contradicting one anotherÂ’s comments. ItÂ’s almost like they didnÂ’t really know what the governmentÂ’s policy really was.
AND thatÂ’s the point. I donÂ’t think they did until a few minutes after the close of the stock markets on Wednesday. They were planning on a Finance Department review and then make a decision and announcement in January. Maybe nobody in the Finance department knew this was coming. Maybe they could have predicted it, but no decision was made yet.
The decision was probably made in the PMO or in the Liberal campaign headquarters. Word may have leaked out from there. Maybe some comment slipped out in a room full of the wrong people. Maybe somebody sent something to the printers and the new policy was in there. A sharp eyed press operator saw it and told a few people and word spread like wildfire. Volume in the affected stocks and trusts went up exponentially on Wednesday. Somebody noticed in Finance and frantically called Ralph. John MacKay was sent out to say something at 5:30. He did not have a clue what it was. It was amateur night at the improv. By the next morning, Ralph was told what the campaign platform was going to be, briefed, he made a statement and now it was the governmentÂ’s policy. At the very least, Goodale knew, but the announcement was to come out after Christmas, not last week.
This is reminiscent of the NDP budget in the spring. Ralph was out of the loop on that one too. The decision was made in the PMO and Finance had to backtrack and start saying how corporate tax cuts were not all that important.
I could be completely wrong. If the press conferences were planned weeks in advance, this theory wouldnÂ’t be true. Can somebody hunt that info down?
Two things are for certain; somebody screwed up and somebody is going to talk. That rise in volume on Wednesday was so large and so broad that a lot of people knew what was going on. Most of the people who made money on this were probably out the loop. However, they saw the trend and they heard a good rumour and they bought. They have no reason to stay silent. This was meant to be a secret and undetectable. Somebody let the cat of the bag. ItÂ’s just a matter of time and effort to narrow down the likely suspects. I just wouldnÂ’t be looking for anybody in the Finance department.
Posted by: PlaidShirt at November 30, 2005 09:17 PM (8FqwD)
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But who in the PMO would have friends in the Finance Department??? Was anyone in the PMO formerly working in Finance?
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The Liberal Party gets "bucked"
OK, I'm trying to coin a new term here, and I'm certain it will fall flat.
There was a pretty lousy but thoroughly enjoyable TV series in 1979 called "Buck Rogers in the 25th Century" starring Gil Gerard and Erin Gray. If you are in your late 30s like me, you'll remember it.
In the pilot episode, Buck infiltrates the enemy mothership which is secretly carrying a wing of small attack bombers with which to attack Earth during a peace conference. Buck hides an explosive in each of the bombers' engines. The attack begins, the mother ship starts launching the bombers, the bombers immediately explode after clearing the launch bays.
Buck Rogers, rugged individualist, saves the day.
Why was I recalling this bit of silliness? Because it seems to be happening to Liberal Party mothership right now.
Funny thing is, the person most likely playing the role of Buck Rogers in this little play is not someone you'd expect.
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Clever analogy! I was thinking somewhat on similar lines today, but I fancied the killer rabbits scene from Monty Python's "The Holy Grail" (I'm older than you me thinks), the killer rabbits being of course the supposedly docile and compliant constituents of Etobicoke-Lakeshore.
Posted by: Schwarze Tulpe at November 30, 2005 05:22 PM (sjzwl)
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I think the term you may be looking for is "rogered".
Posted by: Paul O at November 30, 2005 05:54 PM (ARIpM)
Posted by: MB at November 30, 2005 06:17 PM (g0HCI)
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How bout "Ignati-EFFED".... emphasis on EFFED.
Posted by: thinblueliner at November 30, 2005 06:18 PM (Q9DW/)
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I thought "rogered" might be a bit too British. Not everyone might get it.
But "Buck Rogers" works either way!
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at November 30, 2005 06:33 PM (AJIs1)
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I was watching for a bit on CTV the live broadcast of Ignatieff's acceptance of the riding nomination. I had to pull away, it was so painfully embarrasing to watch. What a debacle. Not a good way for the Librano's to start an election (like I care... not!).
Posted by: Schwarze Tulpe at November 30, 2005 06:34 PM (sjzwl)
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Canadian political drama is hugely Shakespearian, what with all the big and little backstabbing coalitions, the lies, the bargains hammered out which going unfulfilled exact retribution - so entertaining it's mesmerizing - and yet separate from the bureaucratic machine-administration of Governance that rumbles along chewing up people's money and spitting out turds. Maybe the gas-output from the Govt.Machine's ass-end is a kind of public sleeping-gas thing to dull the population's senses?
Posted by: -keith in mtn. view at November 30, 2005 06:45 PM (GcWOT)
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Mmmm, Erin and that tight catsuit -- those were the days!
Posted by: mike at November 30, 2005 07:28 PM (bknZJ)
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Roger, "rogered". (A little "Airplane" thrown in for you as well.) Those who get the dual meaning get it, it's still good for those who don't.
Anyhoo, I'm definitely agreeing with the "hand of Martin" theory here - isn't he supposed to have an iron grip on all the riding associations, as his power base? Yes? Right? I mean, I've read that ever since I came up here . . . . Maybe or maybe not in this case, but Ignatieff is a real problem for him in the popularity and future-of-the-party fronts. Maybe he thought he could do something to build the party's future (and got Mrs. Augustine to step aside - or did *that* have more to do with Ukranian dominance anyway?), but torpedoed it when he realized what it really meant? I'm just asking - things like this definitely happen in politics.
Posted by: Meg Q at November 30, 2005 08:03 PM (RDvz3)
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Actually Bucky is the name you should use for Dither's.
as in Bucky Dither's.
You'll know what I mean if you watch Radio Canada on Sunday nights
Posted by: gimbol at November 30, 2005 09:02 PM (uDj9I)
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I'm not in my LATE 30s yet (34), but I will heartily second mike's appreciation of Erin Gray in the catsuit. Rowr! (You know it's good when it got me giddy at the ripe old age of 8!!!)
BTW, "Bucked" is good, but "Rogered" is way better.
Posted by: Mike H at November 30, 2005 09:09 PM (XiCiL)
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If by the mercy of little baby Jesus the Conservatives gain a majority and they DON'T absolutely dismantle the whole Liberal/South of Bloor Media Complex (CBC, CanCon, Arts Grants, CRTC, etc.) they deserve to lose every election for the next generation. Without the media we can actually get our message across without the intellegensia filter.
Posted by: Jimbo Jones at November 30, 2005 09:37 PM (PSVNm)
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Bucky Dithers has a kind of ring to it doncha think? never watched Radio Canada though.
Posted by: kelly at November 30, 2005 10:17 PM (/IrGj)
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...loved that show!...it was around the same time as Battlestar Galactica....loved that one too...I'd like to watch the new one on cable/satellite, but I'm too poor cuz of the tax rapists in government.
You'd probably be better off making comparisons to Caesar, Brutus, and the old Roman Senate however...or maybe, early Soviet Russia even.
Posted by: David Lockwood at November 30, 2005 10:23 PM (Jw5ti)
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Do check out the new Galactica -- Starbuck has became an angry blond women, and Boomer(?) has become a chinese cylon women spy -- that is an upgrade from the original, although there are no more Canadians in space.
In a related matter -- Was Mark Garneau really an astronaut? I thought Chris Hadfield(?) was the first Canadian astronaut and the Garneau was the first Canadian Mission Tourist or something?
Posted by: mike at December 01, 2005 01:40 AM (bknZJ)
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Seems like he's "buckered", I would say, chaps.
Posted by: Shaken at December 01, 2005 07:10 AM (JyC7p)
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Kelly:
Whenever this show has the animated version of the PM being interviewed, he tends to "sh-sh-shs-sh" through his buck teeth and sweat alot.
I thought the moniker stuck like glue at that point. Haven't been able to get a screen shot of Bucky yet though.
http://www.radio-canada.ca/television/et_dieu_crea_laflaque/index.shtml
Posted by: gimbol at December 01, 2005 07:47 AM (uDj9I)
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Twicky twicky Buck!
Erin Gray, better yet Pamela Hensley as Princess Ardala!!
Posted by: at December 01, 2005 12:08 PM (e5rfi)
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Twicky twicky Buck!
Erin Gray, better yet Pamela Hensley as Princess Ardala!!
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The Abotech Affair: More leaks from inside Consulting and Audit Canada
More detailed information seems to leaking out from inside Consulting and Audit Canada. Is the information accurate? Some of it is. For the rest I can't say one way or another.
But it seemed so detailed and so damning that I'll post it -- you decide for yourself.
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I see that Frank has other friends.....The Minister of PWGSC disbanded CAC on October 21st. Do you shut down a Government Agency because of 1 person? No way, you shut it down because of flawed management practices.
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 01:48 PM (jYZIJ)
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Geez, the Globe and Mail, Poilievre, the Droit and now the West Quebec Post printing stories with incorrect information. Don't reporters verify their sources? What happens if the Ethics counsellor clears Smith? Are these people open to a lawsuit? Who knows. Brazeau DID NOT do anything wrong. I am glad people are coming forward to defend this guy.
Signed by a Socialist
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 02:08 PM (jYZIJ)
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Socialist,
I have verified everything in that article, which accuses neither Brazeau nor Smith of anything.
It simply spells out the facts, which, taken as a whole, tend to indicate corruption. It looks bad, when an aboriginal company is run by a man who is either friends with, or a cousin of, a contact person for the program in charge of handing out cash to aboriginal companies.
I have printouts of all the government records, and spoke directly with Chief Whiteduck and David Smith, who refused to confirm or deny that he and Brazeau are cousins. It seems to me if they were not cousins, he would have immediately denied it.
I made no allegations in that article, I simply reported verified facts.
Don't forget that truth is a defense in a defamation lawsuit.
Posted by: JulieM at November 30, 2005 04:45 PM (6krEN)
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Socialist, and all,
I see that the original government of Canada website calls him a "consultant," and I have passed along that information to my editor.
I very much suspect that the problem goes much deeper than Abotech.
Posted by: JulieM at November 30, 2005 05:08 PM (6krEN)
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It looks bad when an aboriginal company is run by a man who is not an aboriginal as well. Angry and now Julie are on to something very juicy methinks.
Keep up the excellent work!!
Posted by: kelly at November 30, 2005 08:21 PM (/IrGj)
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Verified facts? Brazeau WAS NOT a contracts officer, the vast majority of the contracts were competitive. Brazeau was NOT sent home because of his links to Abotech, he was sent home because of the RCMP forensic audit. Again, none of the contracts were through the Procurement Strategy for Aboriginal Business and I don't give a crap if Smith is Aboriginal or not. I don`t know Smith and Brazeau NEVER handed out cash, that was not his role.
Brazeau was a Public Servant with the title of Consultant as everyone else on the consulting side of CAC were either Consultants, Senior Consultants, or Principal Consultants. You have a lot more homework to do.
Brison said he received good work and value from the firm, you think it's about Abotech? If Smith were not an MP, you NEVER would have heard of this story, NEVER. There are a lot of people wondering what this is about. Let me tell you, the reasons are not Abotech, Smith or Brazeau.
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 08:48 PM (Adlzr)
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From the Globe and Mail:
Frank Brazeau was a contracting officer at Consulting and Audit Canada whose performance came under the scrutiny of auditors at KPMG. In their recent report, the auditors raised allegations of irregularities in Mr. Brazeau's handling of contracts, finding a lack of documentation, backdating of contracts, manipulation of requests for proposals and irregular invoices.
Mr. Brazeau was initially suspended with pay, but he is no longer receiving a salary "pending further review," according to a senior federal official.
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at November 30, 2005 09:00 PM (WKZIT)
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Brazeau could not do that, he had no authority. Wonder who the senior official is? Further review, does that mean they are doing another audit?
As my colleague as stated, the contracts were not passed through the set-aside program since there is no apparent history on MERX.
The relationship question, what if Brazeau is related to Smith? I know of many examples where a spouse of a CAC employee worked as a contractor and there was no conflict since the employee did not sign the contract. I don't think then that being 1st, 2nd, 3rd cousins or whatever else would then be considered a conflict.
I would be EXTREMELY careful in regards to Smith's ancestry (I don't know if he is or isn't). To be considered aboriginal, you have to be a Status Indian, Non-Status, Metis or Inuit and this is determined by the different organizations in this country. Because a former teacher and current chief says they are not part of the Band mean that the person is not aboriginal.
Socialist
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 11:32 PM (CmBo7)
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The issue of David Smith's aboriginal ancestry is an interesting one. It might be legit in that he followed the rules properly, if perhaps cynically. But if you are born on a farm surrounded by band lands, but you are not an aboriginal, if you grew up not being an aboriginal, then in your adult life you get that status and then use it to get money, meanwhile the aboriginals from your birthplace insist you are not an aboriginal, something doesn't seem right.
Canadian citizenship is determined by the Canadian government, not by the US, not by France, not by Uganda. Why is it that "citizenship" in First Nations is not defined by First Nations but by a "foreign" government, ie, the Canadian government?
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at December 01, 2005 07:38 AM (O6VjV)
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Verified facts? Brazeau WAS NOT a contracts officer, the vast majority of the contracts were competitive. Brazeau was NOT sent home because of his links to Abotech, he was sent home because of the RCMP forensic audit. Again, none of the contracts were through the Procurement Strategy for Aboriginal Business and I don't give a crap if Smith is Aboriginal or not. I don`t know Smith and Brazeau NEVER handed out cash, that was not his role.
So give me something to go on. Something that verifies your story. Send me a scan of a document, minutes of a meeting, a name and a place and an event that I can cross reference from another source that supports what you're saying. Right now all I have a compelling story from an anonymous IP address.
On the other side of the ledger I have David Smith an aboriginal of questionable status linked to a company Abotech listed in the aboriginal directory sharing a fax number with a former non-aboriginal employer named as a cousin of Brazeau by a *named* source. Brazeau in turn was clearly punished for something by CAC where he definitely worked on contracts in some capacity and where he definitely reported on compliance with PSAB.
I've already reported my suspicions about the RCMP contract and my thoughts that the Abotech affair might be a distraction to keep eyes away from the RCMP thing. But besides my own suspicions, I got nothing on the RCMP side.
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at December 01, 2005 07:46 AM (O6VjV)
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All I know is that once the Ethics Counsellor makes his decision one way or the other, the truth will come out.
Posted by: at December 01, 2005 08:27 AM (etdgl)
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...It's livelihood depended on revenue from other departments. It charged for finding contractors, and also charged a mark-up on professional fees. For many years, it was in the red; therefore, management silently endorsed anything that would bring in revenues...
So how does a non-profit, support centre start 'bringing in revenues'?
I would think it would have to either charge higher 'fees' or increase it's mark-up, or maybe have the contractors pay some kind of special administration/referral fee. Ultimately, you just know that those revenues are at the expense of the taxpayer.
And I wonder if CAC management & staff were then rewarded with 'performance bonuses' for no longer operating in the red?
Posted by: JM at December 01, 2005 02:52 PM (LoP6D)
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CAC executives, who are eligible for performance pay, were certainly handsomely rewarded. A DG can earn up to 15% of his base salary in performance pay (top end of the EX-3 DG salary is $135k, so 15% is over $20k!!). That's pretty good coinage... and incentive for silently endorsing
- contract splitting;
- rolling over $25k contracts to avoid competitive processes;
- awarding contracts to spouses of fellow CAC colleagues...
This information is all available through Access to Information. Put in an access request for all contracts given to Lansdowne Technologies since 1991, for example. Tell me if THAT doesn't look fishy.
While you're at it, put in an access request for all correspondence, meeting minutes, agendas, notes, statements of work, etc., related to Frank Brazeau's being sent home. Assuming those documents haven't been shredded yet.
Oh, and you know how much KPMG was paid for this work that, for all intents and purposes, is full of mis-information?
$1.4M
Someone should ask CAC to confirm that (or do it via Access to Information).
Posted by: at December 01, 2005 04:12 PM (C56aM)
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“...CAC executives, who are eligible for performance pay, were certainly handsomely rewarded...”
Of course they were. And they were in good company.
http://www.johnwilliams.ca/news/wastereportperfpay.pdf
That positive cash flow on CACÂ’s financial statements probably looks pretty good if you donÂ’t look too closely & figure out that those extra revenues are probably being paid by the taxpayer.
“....rolling over $25k contracts to avoid competitive processes....”
And how many of those $25,000 contracts ended up being rolled over until they reached $50,000, $75,000, $100,000....? And the rationale for issuing 2, 3, or more contracts vs one? ItÂ’s certainly more convenient & quicker having 1 or 2 managers affix their signature on a $25,000 contract vs maybe getting 4, 5 or more signatures on a $100,000 contract. That takes way too long! But more importantly it also minimizes the number of managers who may start questioning some of the contracts which are processed.
“....awarding contracts to spouses of fellow CAC colleagues...”
Of course this little secret can easily be hidden by making sure that the spouse submits all contracts under the guise of operating as a legitimate, established ‘company’. And if you’re French-Canadian it’s probably even easier to keep this hidden because don't women continue using their maiden names.
"...Lansdowne Technologies..." My guess...it's probably operated by former and/or retired government employees.
Posted by: JM at December 01, 2005 05:53 PM (LoP6D)
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Lansdowne Technologies is and was operated by former CAC employees.
Posted by: at December 02, 2005 11:25 AM (jYZIJ)
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"....Lansdowne Technologies is and was operated by former CAC employees..."
I recall reading about this before:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover020305.htm
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Belinda's friends
I was checking Belinda Stronach's new digs on the Web, and it strikes me that she has some interesting new friends to help her out with her campaign.
I guess she needs new ones since many of her former campaign workers are so angry with her that they're working hard to make sure Lois Brown, the new Conservative candidate, wins the riding of Newmarket-Aurora.
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The site was registered by Navigator just before she decided to run for the leadership of the CPC.
http://talkcanada.blogspot.com/2004_01_01_talkcanada_archive.html#107419212615144665
Posted by: Don at November 30, 2005 12:15 PM (VpT98)
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From over on the Shotgun:
http://www.belinda.ca/images/just-c.gif
This likely won't stay up for much longer (it's the Conservatives' 'C')
Posted by: Leonidas at November 30, 2005 12:30 PM (5mK/0)
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John Laschinger (her campaign chair when she ran for the CPC leadership) also has ties to Navigator, doesn't he?
Posted by: Toronto Tory at November 30, 2005 01:38 PM (19Z9Z)
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Murray.. isn't he the former mayor of Winnipeg, parachuted in as a "star candidate" last time around only to get beaten by Steven Fletcher? He just keeps worming his way into that inner circle of Liberals, doesn't he?
Posted by: Ian in NS at November 30, 2005 03:18 PM (HakXQ)
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I'm trying to find the calculator that used to be on the CPC website re calculating transportation charges to see what your savings would be under a CPC government, they've redesigned their website and I can't find it, can you help?
Posted by: Laurie at November 30, 2005 04:01 PM (RSYSw)
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"From over on the Shotgun:
http://www.belinda.ca/images/just-c.gif
This likely won't stay up for much longer (it's the Conservatives' 'C')"
The above is surprising in view of the "High" price help she apparently has hired.
"firm of Liberal and NDP progressives (Murray and Watt are both openly gay deeply into gay activist issues) with the goal of making sure that there are no surprises."
Is this classified as a "surprise"
Horny Toad
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 08:58 PM (1MfAa)
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Ian in NS:
Certainly looks to be the same Glen Murray: gay spirit of a mayor morphed into "star" candidate morphed into environmental "expert" and now principal in a "serious research and public opinion firm". In bed with Belinda...will the wonders of Libranoship never cease. Kinda makes you think of that old (politically incorrect) limerick:
There was a gay fellow named Bloom
Took a lesbian up to his room
They argued all night over who had the right
To do what and with which and to whom.
Posted by: Felix at November 30, 2005 09:49 PM (OtLu5)
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November 29, 2005
The Conservative Party Blog -- a comparison
I gave the Liberal Party Blog a rough ride for being a bit too much on the cute side.
Some people thought I nailed it; some thought I was missing the point.
Well, at the risk of sounding partisan, here is the Conservative Party Blog, and I think it strikes the right note, at least for me:
Welcome to the Tour Blog at conservative.ca. Over the next several weeks, I will attempt to provide an "inside" look at Stephen Harper's national tour as we cross the country speaking with Canadians about Stephen Harper and the positive Conservative vision for Canada. As a tour staffer, I hope to offer you a perspective from "inside the bus" as the Leader visits all corners of the country. Be sure to check back each day for the latest news from the road!
One staffer's log of the events and experiences of a campaign. No attacks or insults delivered in mocking tones, but insight and perspective written with respect for both the subject and the reader.
Sounds like the two blog capture perfectly the choice being presented to Canadians.
But then maybe I'm missing the point again.
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Right off the bat, Harper spews the radio-active So-Con crap about "same sex marriage" and the liberals splash it on their web page:
http://www.liberal.ca/default_e.aspx
Nice move!
Posted by: Johannes at November 29, 2005 11:17 PM (nU3sC)
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I sure hope our so-called journalists will take their heads out of their asses long enough to start asking Liberals (and other parties) if they would use the not-withstanding clause to override the Chaouli decision. The first time Martin opens his mouth about "you can't cherry pick from the Charter", someone should jump all over him. But, I won't hold my breath.
Posted by: TimR at November 29, 2005 11:52 PM (AwtAt)
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Okay Tim, you got me, what is the Chaouli decision? Are you referring to the Quebec Supreme Court ruling on health care? If so, I agree with you 100% but if not you will have to enlighten me.
Johannes, you are aware that liberal MP Pat O'Brien is busy putting together a non partisan campaign against SSM right now? That several liberals don't support SSM including many I know? That some NDP don't support it including the one that voted against it? That it is only a free vote motion that Stephen is talking about that will likely not even be passed but if it was then a civil union with the same rights would be created so therefore you are screeching about what NAME it would be called? That several Conservative supporters, including myself, support SSM?
My dear you should stop listening to liberal rhetoric as this is likely to be forgotten eight weeks from now as more pressing issues like people dying while waiting for health care emerge. Stephen Harper made a promise that although may seem unpopular by many at least he is a man of his word, not afraid to face it head on and is not trying to lie about it or hide it. He said that a free vote would be allowed to settle the issue once and for all. No one is going to lose any "rights", they deserve to be as miserable, oops, I mean happy as the rest of us, divorce, support, custody and all the rest.
The liberals definition of family and how they intend to insert themselves into the social engineering of young children instead of their own parents should concern you more.
Posted by: Anne (mad in Ontario) at November 30, 2005 12:31 AM (glkWC)
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What Stephen Harper has to emphasize more clearly, is that it is not the ruling that offends. It is the way it was done.
It is about the Liberal Party feeling "entitled" to decide for all Canandians something so contraversal. They rushed it through, cutting off debate and whipped the Cabinate to vote for it. It should be given fair debate and those people elected by Canadians, should be allowed to FREELY vote as directed by the people that elected them.
If the main point in this campaign is honest and open government. Democracy! Where the people of Canada make the decision about what our society will look like - then how can they run from this?
If the arguement is, that most Canadians want the definition to stand as it is, then a vote in the house shouldn't scare anyone. It should be something encouraged to re-enforce the fact that this is where most Canadians want to go. Let each riding give direction to their represenative and have a free vote!
Me thinks they protest too much, because they are afraid of democracy and the will of the people.
I think by coming out with it right off the bat, Stephen has said "Let the people decide".
Posted by: thots at November 30, 2005 01:07 AM (9mQEP)
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The Chaouli decision will be re-visited and their ruling will change after the election. The Liberals asked the SCOC to reconsider its decision and the SCOC agreed (because they are controlled by the PMO). One of the two non-Liberal SC justices is stepping down and Paul Martin will appoint someone who will rule against Chaouli. That is how the Liberals work. If the SCOC makes a decision they simply ask them to reconsider their decision AFTER they appoint a new judge that they like better.
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Posted by: dave at November 30, 2005 02:01 AM (RVW5R)
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sorry, we forgot the ;-)
Posted by: dave at November 30, 2005 02:15 AM (RVW5R)
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Unfortunatley for all of us and Canada I think the election is now over and the libs will have a majority.
Harper has "snatched defeat from the jaws of victory".
I have maintained for sometime that politician are "one brick short of a load" and with Harpers SSM stuff today it just proves it.
Oh well, at least when the CPC have been defeated thay can fell good about the fact they ran an "above board" campaign and didn't gewt down into the mud with the other guys.
"Show me a good loser and I'll show you a loser"
Horny Toad
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 02:47 AM (1MfAa)
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MARTINÂ’S HOT CHOCOLATE AT CHRISTMAS IMAGE
Martin’s little ‘post-fall of government’ blurb saying Canadians want hot chocolate at Christmas, and don’t want to see politicians on their TV screens is very telling about his gambit that Canadians will forget about the corruptions of his party in favour of hot chocolate.
In the virtual one party state created by MartinÂ’s Liberal Party in Canada for over a century now, Canadians have been taught (similar to other corrupt one party states) that politicians are a corrupt, self-serving lot and represent the very opposite of the ideals of the Christmas spirit and the comfort zone of good feelings represented by the image of hot chocolate. The incredible gall of the Liberal Party for decades has been to paint the other parties with the brush of their own record of corruption with self righteous images like this, even with the smell of the sponsorship scandal so close to home.
The Liberal one party state has engineered the ‘democratic deficit’, making Canada one of the least democratic of modern democratic nations, and as a further example of the governance hypocritical gall typical of one party state parties, has given the portfolio of governance democratic reform to a minister minted by betraying the democratic intent of those who voted for her. Had she wanted to switch sides, she should have stood in a by-election and run under the new banner. Only in Martin’s cardboard version of ‘democracy’ are such games thwarting democratic intent possible and justified as ‘statecraft’ by Liberal-apologetic pundits. Typical of one party states, a whole caste of cynical pundits has been created under the one party state history that considers such ‘slaps in the face of democracy’, normal realistic smart political practice.
The one party state Liberals have given Canadians nothing but cynical attitudes towards politicians and so this record by the Liberals as virtual one party state gives fodder to Liberal PM Martin’s comment that Canadians don’t want to see the face of such cynical, self-serving, corrupted politicians during the Christmas season. What is striking about Martin’s comment is that he thinks he is taking the high road with this comment on the disrepute his Liberals have given politicians and the political process. This PM of an utterly corrupt wasteful one party state has the gall to self-righteously speak for the ‘hot chocolate good feelings’ Canadians prefer to his cynically corrupt one party state politicians.
In most one party states, just because something is legal does not mean it is not utterly corrupt. This is because in most one party states this same party gets to appoint most judges. Liberal Party determination in judicial appointments is well known and suitable candidates from other parties do not bother to try. Yet, much of this Liberal PartyÂ’s justification for what it does to Canadian citizens is justified on the basis of what its own appointed judges declare legal. Again, this follows the pattern of most one party states.
The sponsorship scandal is the tip of an iceberg, where in most cases much larger sums are wasted and funneled to cronies of the one party state under ‘legal contracts’ that, in essence, are no less corrupt, wasteful, or useless.
Yes, Martin speaks with assumed sincerity about Canadians wanting hot chocolate rather than sincere democratic options in the Christmas season because it is his own party that has made a cynical mockery of Canadian democratic hopes for more than a century as a virtual one party state. This party even had the gall to make the party colors the national flag colors.
Between the fear mongering and the ‘hot chocolate’ con-rhetoric, Martin stakes the ground for a return to corrupt autocratic mandarin-based rule in virtual one party state Canada.
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Geez Toad, if he hadn't answered the question they'd all be screaming "Hidden Agenda". He can't win in your eyes or the media's.
Posted by: Mike D at November 30, 2005 07:26 AM (w4k/Q)
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What's the first thing out of Harpers mouth? "dagnabbit, I hate those gay people and we're gonna get em'" Evidence that the Tory strategy is all about hatred and nothing to do with policy. they're going to lose - again...
Posted by: Flanstein at November 30, 2005 08:14 AM (07Ady)
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First of all, let me just say, I think the CPC blog is totally neato!
Second of all, I was a bit dismayed to hear that Harper started with the issue gay marriage. My first thought was, "he's got a Liberal mole advising him!"
Unless, as the previous poster said, he hammers the point about HOW the decision was made--remind Canadians that this is a democracy.
But IMO he should spend as little time as possible on gay marriage. Those opposed to it are already going to vote for him. He's got to reach out to the middle. Talk about tax cuts, getting rid of the federal tax (or cutting it) on gasoline--high gas prices hurt people hard, and also about free choice in terms of taking care of young children.
The government wants to subsidize day care? Give the money to the parents outright, so they can stay home with their kids and save it, give it to their next door neighbor to watch their kids, or to Grandma, whatever. But the Liberal party wants to take that choice away from you.
Hey! *light bulb* "Choice"--that NEEDS to be his buzzword. It resonates with the pro-choice crowd.
And I wouldn't spend too much time on the free vote issue. That scares the pro-choice crowd because a social conservative MP could introduce a private members bill outlawing abortion, and if Harper is committed to free votes....
So, Stephen Harper, if you're listening, talk about gay marriage now if you must (remember it didn't work well in the "immigrant communities" even though I thought it would be a winner among Muslims), then get over it and talk about issues that the average Canadian really cares about.
With all due respect, I just don't think gay marriage is a winner.
Posted by: JulieM at November 30, 2005 08:20 AM (6krEN)
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Angry:
The Tory blog isn't entirely free of criticism. One major difference is that we know who authors the Liberal blog, but we don't know who writes the Tory one.
Is that important? I'd say yes. Based on my observations on the Supreme Court nomination process, one thing I've always thought the Tories should stand for is transparency in government, knowing who's responsible for what. Since voters tend to judge competency in government by competency in campaigns, this is one area where the Tories lose nothing by identifying its official campaign blogger.
Posted by: PhantomObserver at November 30, 2005 09:13 AM (U8FJD)
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Mike D is right, if he hadn't raised it it undoubtably come out later (likely be the Liberals, and would have been construed as further proof of the Conservatives 'Hidden Agenda", at least it is out now, and early enough that most voters will forget about it by the end of January.
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 10:35 AM (oYLkF)
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The problem is that gay marriage, etc. etc. is part of the policy at all. The whole social-conservative part is what's weighing down the feasible fiscal-conservative, small government, non-interventionist part of the CPC.
Any kind of meddling is meddling, whether pro- or con- marriage, abortion,etc etc. I think they should purge the social conservative element from the party, or re-channel its energy to non-interventionism. That's really the only course, and its actually the right course and the right argument to make. Governement gets in the way of individual or spontaneous innovation, and is basically the most inefficient means of getting something done.
The CPC should be about liberty, but liberty doesn't mean license, nor does it mean lack of responsibility. Legislating gay marriage, or any definition of marriage, is bullsh*t, and I think Canadians rightly interpret allowing SSM to pass as being the lesser of two evils.
Posted by: Johannes at November 30, 2005 10:50 AM (nU3sC)
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The free vote over the SSM thing can be seen as an attempt to correct what is seen by many as part of the Democratic deficit. Mr. Harper is just trying to help the Liberals understand what democracy means.
Most Canadains don't really understand how much power resides in the PMO. If they did they might get physically sick.
I would like Mr. Harper and many other Tories to start telling Canadians the truth about the tenticles that extend from the PM's office.
Some might say this is a waste of time, but Canadians perceive themselves to be fair, and can you really make fair decisions without knowing the whole story?
Posted by: truthsayer at November 30, 2005 12:44 PM (gxTmW)
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I think this move was brilliant...Being ahead of the red snake is the only way to keep the hidden agenda crap at bay...This story will fizzle out soon...It will resurface on the dying days of the campaign when the Librano$ are in panic mode...
The defining moment will be determined at the leader's debate which has yet to be scheduled...In the meantime most canucks will carry on in a half coma as usual:Hockey and survivor.
I can see mr. dithers sweating and studdering already...
Posted by: metalguru at November 30, 2005 03:30 PM (Mqv6V)
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"I think this move was brilliant...Being ahead of the red snake is the only way to keep the hidden agenda crap at bay."
That is a good point and one other thing--as far as I know, he was responding to a question.
This is very different than the media's omitting that point, making it sound like he grabbed that gay marriage issue and hit the ground running, in a province that has just elected an openly gay leader of a political party that just might take the majority next time!
Posted by: JulieM at November 30, 2005 06:00 PM (M7kiy)
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I thought the Liberal blog was tacky. Pure crap. "Let's appeal to the opinionated bloggers that we JUST denounced last week by becoming one of them - that'll appease them!"
Personally I'm waiting for the Liberals blog to turn into Warren Kinsella and have it degenerate into "F***ING reprehensilbe" (as Warren puts it) shouting match about the proper terminology for a given ethnic group.
Bring it on Liberals. Betcha you don't got no foul language checker on your blog...
After all, if the CBC can do it in prime time, the Liberals should surely be spouting artful expression in the name of free speeh while on the campaign trail. Or is that best left to government funded arts programs?
Ah well, maybe at the end of the campaign Paul Martin will just buck up and let his Bahamanian business manager be the butch and marry him. He seems to be pretty keen on the gays. Do you think that maybe Paul has a hidden agenda himself? C'mon guys, you can come out of the clost now that you have made it legal...
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Another Pierre Lemieux? And an idea for a blogroll...
From the Great Pumpkin, a tale of two Peters.
One is the CPC candidate for Glengarry-Prescott-Russell, near Ottawa.
The other is another conservative figure, an economist and writer for the National Post, the Western Standard, and other major publications.
The first owns the domain www.pierrelemieux.ca, while the second owns .org and .com.
With the election underway, maybe the candidate Lemieux could use a bump up so he gets spotted first on searches, so go visit the site or link him up.
Which gives me an idea. I'd like to construct a blogroll of all CPC candidate websites. I've got one already, the address for candidate Lemieux. Help me out by sending me the links to any candidates you know. Identify what province they're running in. Let's see if we can construct the full list within a week.
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http://www.bradfarquhar.com/
Wascana, SK
Posted by: Alan at November 29, 2005 09:08 PM (5UJaQ)
Posted by: Shaken at November 29, 2005 09:16 PM (JyC7p)
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Are you looking for all candidate websites or just those with blogs?
Posted by: Tamara at November 29, 2005 09:30 PM (arp3Z)
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Blogs or websites -- both are good.
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at November 29, 2005 09:48 PM (AJIs1)
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www.Lauriehawn.ca
Updates coming soon.
Posted by: what it takes to win at November 29, 2005 09:57 PM (Qm/ag)
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www.keithfountain.ca
Ottawa Centre
Posted by: OttawaCon at November 29, 2005 09:58 PM (0k3Xi)
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Rick Dykstra (St. Catharines)
www.rickdysktra.ca
Sam Goldstein (Trinity-Spadina)
www.samgoldstein.ca
Posted by: Steve V. at November 29, 2005 10:18 PM (dD3qs)
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http://www.mandur.ca/
Kitchener-Waterloo
Posted by: Jim Pook at November 29, 2005 10:21 PM (1VdLY)
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http://www.fightingforyou.ca/
Pierre Poilievre
Nepean-Carleton, Ontario
Posted by: drareg at November 29, 2005 10:49 PM (MWGXq)
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http://www.guylauzon.ca/
Guy Lauzon
Stormont, Dundas & South Glengarry
Posted by: Binh at November 29, 2005 11:24 PM (eS2La)
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http://www.arthanger.ca/
Art Hanger
Calgary NorthEast
Posted by: dan0 at November 29, 2005 11:25 PM (CThWr)
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http://www.tomdeblois.com/
Tom DeBlois
Charlottetown, PEI
Thanks Angry - and great idea!
Posted by: Linda at November 29, 2005 11:44 PM (oCPrU)
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http://www.gordonoconnor.ca
Gordon O'connor
Carleton-Mississippi Mills
Ontario
Posted by: dorionhawk at November 30, 2005 12:04 AM (uNtFH)
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http://www.jamesmoore.org/blog.htm
Posted by: at November 30, 2005 12:15 AM (ZJrqf)
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In Alberta, and not yet listed above:
Lee Richardson
Calgary Centre
www.votelee.ca
Jim Prentice
Calgary Centre-North
http://www.jimprentice.ca/ElectionHome.htm
Mike Lake
Edmonton – Millwoods – Beautmont
www.mikelake.ca
Rona Ambrose
Edmonton – Spruce Grove
www.ronaambrose.com
Chris Warkentin
Peace River
www.chriswarkentin.ca
Blaine Calkins
Wetaskiwin
www.blainecalkins.ca
Rob Merrifield
Yellowhead
www.robmerrifield.com
The remainder of the candidates in Alberta either don't have websites, or their current website is an "MP" website, not an election website, if you know what I mean. I can add them here if you'd like.
Posted by: Johnny Pockets at November 30, 2005 12:58 AM (LkGtP)
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www.mikerichards.ca (Winnipeg South Centre)
Posted by: The Hack at November 30, 2005 01:07 AM (ZpKw5)
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http://www.loisbrown.ca/ Lois Brown, the Conservative candidate running for Newmarket-Aurora against Belinda Stronach
Posted by: BC Monkey at November 30, 2005 06:52 AM (59lgx)
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Sorry, this is off topic, but does anybody know if there is a website that gives you a list or timeline of Lib scandals and incompetence. (ie. Human Resources, gun registry Adscam, etc.)
Posted by: Mike D at November 30, 2005 07:31 AM (w4k/Q)
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John Capobianco - Etobicoke Lakeshore (facing Michael Ignatieff!)
http://www.johncapobianco.ca/
Posted by: paulo at November 30, 2005 11:43 AM (aPc0+)
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website www.timdobson.ca
Pickering-Scarborough East (Ontario)
very good idea
Posted by: John the Mad at November 30, 2005 12:15 PM (Z5/ya)
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MikeD:
I'm just building such a database. You can find it at libscam.godsandartists.com.
Posted by: Johnny Pockets at November 30, 2005 12:25 PM (OR7xL)
Posted by: Linda at November 30, 2005 01:07 PM (oCPrU)
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Bob Mullan Conservative running in Kings-Hants (Nova Scotia) http://www.bobmullan.com/
Posted by: wolfvillewatch at November 30, 2005 02:01 PM (yzOzm)
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Andrew Scheer's, Regina-Qu'Appelle, hasn't got anything new lately.
http://andrewscheermp.blogspot.com/
Posted by: Jack Monteith at November 30, 2005 02:54 PM (w2+Jz)
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Rod Bruinooge, Winnipeg South, fighting Reg Alcock:
http://www.bruinooge.ca/
Posted by: Dave at November 30, 2005 03:09 PM (bIC9p)
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Just wanted to say that
Pierre Lemieux is the best candidate that Glengarry/Prescott/Russell has ever seen. If anyone is from that area and is interested in volunteering on his campaign don't hesitate to contact him via his website*. The GPR riding has been Liberal for too long. Changez pour Lemieux!
*www.plemieux.ca
Posted by: Lizieux at November 30, 2005 07:51 PM (3pp7F)
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I'm sure Mr. Lemieux is a nice man etc., but am I the only one to think he looks a lot like Anthony Robbins in that picture??? (Not necessarily a good thing)
Posted by: Meg Q at November 30, 2005 08:32 PM (RDvz3)
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Thanks Johnny and Linda. These two sites are just what I was looking for!
Posted by: Mike D at December 01, 2005 07:24 AM (w4k/Q)
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And this is what happens...
...when you decriminalize marijuana.
You get The Official Blog of the Liberal Party of Canada:
Wow, look at me! I'm in "cyberspace," where no one can hear you scream. Or maybe they CAN hear you scream but they don't pay attention because they're too busy looking at naked ladies. Either way, stop screaming, would you?
I for one am betting this so-called "Internet" is really going to catch on. It's neato.
That really what's on the blog. No kidding.
Obviously there is a bit of tongue-in-cheek here (the Internet "catching on" is meant to be a joke), but it's also supposed to be a clever way of delivering the Liberal message of how scary Stephen Harper is, in this case, comparing Stephen Harper to the Grinch:
Remember, kids: one is grumpy and has a heart two sizes too small. And the other one's the Grinch.
That's a knee-slapper.
For me, I'll keep to my dry and serious presentation, with a special effort on being news-like. For those who want sophomoric wit and words like "neato" in their political discourse, well, you've got that other blog.
Remember: views expressed on this blog do not necessarily represent the policies or beliefs of Paul Martin. Except when I write about the hypnotic musical stylings of Nana Mouskouri. We're totally in sync on that.
One more thing I don't have in common with Paul Martin. I guess I did learn something from reading it, though it hardly seems to have been worth the effort.
I hope the Conservatives avoid the temptation of going all "cutesy".
[Hat tip to small dead animals]
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I didn't see where I could post a reply.
Cowards.
Posted by: Jeff Cosford at November 29, 2005 01:28 PM (PsShO)
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actually...it's a kewl blog.I bet those neo-cons will be shaken in their cowboy boots now.
This guy really owns a Blackberry?
Posted by: at November 29, 2005 01:30 PM (zMnsO)
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It's all too obvious. They're going *Shallow*. The site is aimed at pop-couch.
Too bad, that happens to be a large group in Canada. Pop-couch tends to accept the drip drip propaganda suggesting Harper and the team should be feared for some reason.
Reasons seem not to matter. Simply following Librano spiel is just so easy and convenient.
Well if you are one of those easy going Liberals, please look below the surface of things. Please take the time to learn about the many ways our money was being siphoned away.
Read about Whistle Blower Protection and our ethical Allan Cutler who announced about Adscam sponsorship frauds.
Wikipedia.com is mostly US flavoured so it's a great place to look up neutral, non-biased info on Whistle Blower.
TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 29, 2005 02:00 PM (rmMzv)
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A-ha. We have a name -- Scott Feschuk.
If you go to
http://www.liberal.ca/blogs_e.aspx
you get the identifier.
So, the guy responsible for this blog is Paul Martin's main speechwriter. As well as his response address: sfeschuk@liberal.ca.
Well, this clarifies things a little. Scott seems to have a Monte Solberg-like looseness to his prose, so let's see how far off the leash he's likely to get.
Posted by: PhantomObserver at November 29, 2005 03:00 PM (U8FJD)
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wow, that's really far out man. can't ya just dig it! it's groovy and hip
Posted by: kelly at November 29, 2005 03:08 PM (eDnTd)
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For me, I'll keep to my dry and serious presentation, with a special effort on being news-like. For those who want sophomoric wit and words like "neato" in their political discourse, well, you've got that other blog.
Please tell me you're joking, Steve. Because if not, it's high time for a pickle-ectomy.
Posted by: Damian at November 29, 2005 03:35 PM (Ylb+7)
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Yeah, Damian, I'm being a bit Grinch-y out of disappointment. I would have hoped that a blog from inside the Liberal Party might give some insight into how decisions are made, some news on comings and goings, maybe some amusing anecdotes.
You know, a LOG!
But smarmy, slick, carefully contrived "hipness" delicately doled out makes me feel used some way.
Maybe I'm just an old fogey.
With a pickle.
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at November 29, 2005 04:29 PM (PTRPR)
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Hey, it's early days. You're asking him to write a textbook in 24 hours. Ain't gonna happen.
Posted by: PhantomObserver at November 29, 2005 04:39 PM (U8FJD)
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Damn. I'd really hoped you were just joking.
Personally, I think part of the utility of blogs is that they're irreverent. Even the opening line of this post taps into that quality with a quip about legalizing dope.
To say that you've read this week's script, and AGWN gets all the funny lines seems a bit petulant to me. Feschuk is a good writer who's at his best when he's poking fun. The Liberals would be stupid not to use that strength to whatever advantage they can.
Don't worry, they're still going to lose, Feschuk and Grinch gags or not.
Posted by: Damian at November 29, 2005 04:44 PM (Ylb+7)
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These "gags" are just that.
They are also quite "funny" in the way people who try to be funny are not. Its short man syndrome - Liberal style.
Posted by: Jonathan at November 29, 2005 04:52 PM (UrS1Z)
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Irreverent? Yeah, I can be irreverent, as you noticed. I guess I'm hoping for bit less irreverence and a bit more insight.
I'll keep reading the blog. Maybe it'll grow on me. And I don't know Feschuk. Maybe he's really like that, in which case I should just step back and let the man be himself.
Posted by: Angry in T.O. at November 29, 2005 04:53 PM (PTRPR)
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The way I see it is that Knights have the right to discriminate in any way they choose - they take the risk of backlash against their brand by doing so. The women have the right to pursue breach of contract ligitation to recover any damages. End of story.
Tribunals are kangaroo courts - not true due process.
This is a civil matter of contract law. End of story.
Posted by: Shaken at November 29, 2005 09:43 PM (JyC7p)
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Hmmm well I think he just needs some better quality stuff. This sick eagle crap makes it hard to properly prescribe potions. Either some "Sour Diesel" or perhaps "Red Congoleese" would better prepare him to deal with the dolts we have here.
We lead the world in this field BTW.
PenGun
Do What Now ??? ... Standards and Practices !
Posted by: PenGun at December 04, 2005 10:23 PM (m+4Dl)
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Dear Canada
Its time to wake up and look beyond what the prime minister and his spin room is trying to sell. I believe his actions have gone beyond what this country should put up with.
He is guilty Political Terrorism. His words are to spread fear, all for his own gain. He gets insulted when others point out how he flip flops or when he is caught in bold face lies says lets stick to the issues yet turns around and spews more half truths and lies that he is the only one that can save Canada.
I looked up the words Terrorist in the dictionary and it states [ intimidation in the pursuit of political aims ]
He is a very dangerous man desperate man who will stop at nothing to get his way. Fundamentally he is a very unworthy and untrusting man. For example he states he would use the not withstanding yet he said he would use it to protect religious liberties.
He further claims Harper is dangers yet in his own party there are members who hold moral beliefs. The dirty tricks and outright lies must be dealt with and thrown out of government. No one in their right mind would reward this type of behaviour.
Mr Prime Minister its time to come clean and admit your hidden and self serving agendas.
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The Gary Lunn Phone Call: Not so imaginary
Based on some nagging doubts and some solid information, I decided to double check into the story about the mysterious phone calls being made in the riding of Conservative MP Gary Lunn.
As you might recall, there was a story posted at Free Dominion, alleging that people in Gary Lunn's riding were getting calls from someone pretending to be representing Gary Lunn, and during the course of the conversation, dropping the bombshell that Gary Lunn does not support Conservative Party leader Stephen Harper.
That was reported on Sunday, two days ago.
Yesterday, I called Gary Lunn's office and spoke to Logan, an executive assistant, who said he had not heard of this, and that it was not likely to be true. We all chalked it up to an internet myth.
Another day has gone by. I just got off the phone with Logan, and the story has changed somewhat. True to his word, he found his boss and talked to him about it. This is what he understands happened. Someone did make a phone call to a constituent. As far as he knows, there was only one such phone call. That constituent heard something during that conversation that made him or her concerned, and then that person called Gary Lunn, who assured the constituent that all was well, including Gary Lunn's genuine support for Stephen Harper (which Logan pegged at 150%, something that, after a moment, caused us both to laugh because it seemed like such a cliche).
So is there a story here? Apparently there is, but what it is, I'm not certain yet. The truth lies somewhere in between the extremes. Something did happen. But was it a dirty trick, or just a confused political discussion?
I'll keep checking. And if you are an MP, or work for an MP of any party, and you are reading this, you might do well to check if there is a pattern of weird mischievous calls being made in your riding.
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Where's a good terrorist when you need one?
Would someone please drive a bus load of explosives into Liberal party headquarters..!!
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Lesbians' lawyer lets slip what the "war" is really about
Lesbian and gay rights attorney barbara findlay
In British Columbia, a lesbian couple rent a hall from the Catholic group Knights of Columbus to hold their wedding reception. When the Knights realized it was for a lesbian couple, they canceled the booking and refunded the money.
The couple took the Knights to the British Columbia Human Rights Tribunal, and won a small judgment. Interestingly, the Tribunal made a comment that suggested that a minor amount of extra effort on the part of the Knights to help the couple out after canceling the booking would have turned the judgment in their favour.
That has the lawyer for the lesbians very upset.
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Management of any business has the right to refuse service if they so choose and they aren't obligated to provide any reason for such refusal. The Knights of Columbus lost this case, because they had already entered into a rental agreement.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at November 29, 2005 02:48 PM (NGZzF)
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If Bruce is right I hope the Grewals sue the city of Surrey for this incident in March:
http://www.cbc.ca/bc/story/bc_grewals-same-sex20050302.html
VANCOUVER Two Lower Mainland Conservative MPs, who are married to each other, complain that Surrey city hall refused to give them space to hold a townhall meeting to discuss same-sex marriage.
Newton-North Delta MP Gurmant Grewal and his wife Nina Grewal, the MP for Fleetwood-Port Kells, say they had already paid the rental fee for the Fleetwood Community Centre and sent out advertisements when the city pulled the plug on them.
Grewal says they had to rent a private banquet hall instead, and the turnout was 150 instead of an expected 500 because people didn't know where it was.
He says the city cancelled the booking because the subject was too controversial.
Posted by: TimR at November 29, 2005 03:23 PM (AwtAt)
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business does not have the right to refuse service--has everyone forgotten that printer in Toronto?
Why was it ok to refuse to let the Grewal's use of the hall they had paid for? Because they are NOT gay--which means we have no rights! But I thought we were all equal--now would someone ask the Liberals to define the word 'equal'?
Posted by: George at November 29, 2005 03:31 PM (+Nesi)
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So basically, by saying "Seems fair", you're saying that if I kick the living shit out of you but pay your cab fare to the hospital, you'll forget about that little kicking thing.
Their case was based on their having been discriminated against. They're still angry (surely you can relate) because the judge ratherly cavalierly announced as part of his judgement that a simple monetary kiss-off would have resolved the case in favour of the hall.
Which is, in effect, a judge saying the real cause of their complaint -- the charge of discrimination -- is unfounded. Which is wrong.
See how easy it is when you use both halves of your brain?
Posted by: damdyslexic at November 29, 2005 03:48 PM (0RWCv)
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Your example is profoundly different because:
a) your example involves REAL HARM and REAL DAMAGES. When you cause REAL HARM you are responsible for REAL DAMAGES: in your example, they'd be liable for physical pain, health care costs, lost wages, etc... In the real example of this gay wedding, the only harm is 'psychological anguish' from being 'discriminated' against. That's not real harm, and it certainly has no real damages, aside from the obvious one of having to potentially pay more to snag a different venue.
b) Discrimination is not illegal. Sorry, it isn't. There is no 'Right not to be discriminated against' in the Charter. There is a right to hold opinions, and express them, and a right to free practice of one's religious beliefs, including refusing to recognize another person's beliefs.
You're saying, 'YES THERE IS SUCH A RIGHT!' You're wrong. What it says is: "Every individual is equal
before and under the law and has the right to the
equal protection and equal benefit of the law without discrimination."
That doesn't mean people cannot discriminate, it means LAWS cannot discriminate, and it means that every LAW has to protect without discrimination, and benefit all without discrimination. Individuals are still free to discriminate all they want.
They're angry because Catholics don't agree with them, not because they were 'discriminated' against. Their problem is the EXISTENCE of Catholics and other people who don't agree with them, not 'discrimination'.
Posted by: paulm at November 29, 2005 04:00 PM (k2cyp)
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Yes they have the absolute right to be in my childs school and if I want children at school to learn the christian way of life that's offensive.
I think by letting children live with same sex parents you have violated their rights.
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/17/muslim041117.html
I mean they can't even have a christmas concert, because it's offensive but all the teachers do go around telling boys they should wear pink and positively promote homosexuality.
Course that's fair right?
Is there some possible way that a lifestyle more dangerous than smoking should be so promoted. There is no way it's good for society or the individuals involved.
Posted by: Hollingshead at November 29, 2005 04:42 PM (sf7h6)
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Yes they have the absolute right to be in my childs school and if I want children at school to learn the christian way of life that's terribly offensive. And I can be called all kinds of names for even suggesting it.
I think by letting children live with same sex parents you have violated the childrens rights plus how do homosexuals end up with children?
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2004/11/17/muslim041117.html
I mean the school can't even have a christmas concert, because it's offensive but at my childrens school the teachers do go around telling boys they should wear pink and positively promote homosexuality.
Course that's fair right and good for society? If you're bonkers,
Is there some possible way that a lifestyle more dangerous than smoking should be so promoted. There is no way it's good for society [we should strive to be more than lemmings], or the individuals involved.
Risks of Homosexual Lifestyle to Children
http://www.acpeds.org/?CONTEXT=art&cat=22&art=50&BISKIT=2920801063
Posted by: Hollingshead at November 29, 2005 04:50 PM (sf7h6)
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Stephen Harper only opens his mouth to change feet. In his opening news conference Harper promises to introduce a traditional marriage bill if he is elected. There goes the gay and lesbian vote. In a few days he'll say something that will cost him the pro choice vote.
Posted by: WarBicycle at November 29, 2005 07:28 PM (+c1ek)
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One really has to question the reasoning of the lesbian couple. Renting a reception hall from an organization closely tied to the Catholic church with up front intentions of using it to celebrate a situation that the church is diametrically opposed to would seem to be poor planning on the lesbians part. Other than poor planning the only other viable reason would appear to be provoking a confrontation.
Posted by: Dave at November 29, 2005 07:43 PM (ie0ui)
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Shouldn't that be "Pat" Findlay? You know, of SNL fame....
Posted by: mark at November 29, 2005 09:24 PM (QVKj8)
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heh heh "There goes the gay and lesbian vote."
heh.
Posted by: colin at November 29, 2005 09:58 PM (2sYtX)
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barbara findlay is a lesbian? damn shame, I tell's ya. damn shame.
Posted by: colin at November 29, 2005 10:01 PM (2sYtX)
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Everytime the lesbian lawyers' name is spelled it should be capitalized just to piss her off. Lowercase letters only? And the media oblige her? What a goof!
Posted by: Finn McCool at November 29, 2005 10:42 PM (coWgJ)
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I don't buy the canard that this couple were unaware that the Knights of Columbus were a Catholic organization. They would have to be total ignorami, yet they were tuned in enough to the activist scene to find an activist lawyer. Plainly they were looking for a test case.
Posted by: Murray at November 30, 2005 09:25 AM (dw9A3)
Posted by: William at November 30, 2005 10:13 AM (Zpq0L)
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I think what floored me was this part of the article (emphasis mine):
"But the tribunal said in its judgment that the Knights did so in a way that *affronted the same-sex couple's dignity, feelings and self-respect* and should pay them $1,000 each, as well as reimbursement for out-of-pocket expenses to compensate for their injuries."
You can sue for hurt feelings now? I wish I'd known that when my ex was making me miserable. (Of course, I was making *her* miserable too.)
The inviolable dignity of the human being is a given. But that's meant to protect us against such things as murder, slavery, imprisonment, and other human rights violations. That people are trotting it out to use as a shield against hurt feelings and financial inconvenience brought about by failure to properly research a proposed business partners only undermines the whole concept.
When serious tools are used for trivial matters, it is not long before the tools themselves are seen as trivial, and not long afterwards that *any* use to which those tools are put seems trivial.
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Lies, Damn Lies, and Statistics? Add to that damning graphs
BFI trading (click to enlarge)
The allegations of leaks and insider trading with the collusion of the Finance Minister Ralph Goodale's office continue to swirl.
Check out the chart showing the trading on BFI, the garbage collectors. I find this chart one of the strongest pieces of evidence that something rotten was going on.
On Wednesday, just before 6 p.m. EST, the federal finance department officially announced it would cut the tax on dividends and would leave trusts alone. That's the type of news that is always announced after stock markets close at 4 p.m. EST because it would give a boost to those types of securities.
But trading in many trusts and dividend-paying stocks became much heavier than usual in the hour or two before the market's closed on Wednesday, and share prices rose sharply.
At BFI, the trading picked up as early as 2pm. But look at the price per unit. Essentially flat. These buyers wern't reacting to a shift in the market that had happened. They were preparing for a shift that would happen.
Stock exchange re-opens the next day, and in the wake of the announcement not to tax trusts but to cut taxes on dividends, BFI leaps three dollars. There is a bit of profit taking, but the guys in the know hold on to their units instead of devaluing them by dumping them all at once.
That amounted to what looks like 350,000 shares moving for no apparent reason. Not earth-shattering, but a nice piece of change, especially if you didn't actually have to work at it.
The huge spike in pre-announcement volume, followed by signficantly reduced volume post-announcement, is going to be the kind of flag that regulators are looking for.
I wonder if they would care to know that BFI contributed $2,000 to Paul Martin's leadership campaign in May 2003. Probably just coincidence.
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You're proof positive the Conservative Party has no policies beyond Liberals bad, Conservatives good.
Posted by: warbicycle at November 29, 2005 09:13 AM (+c1ek)
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You are proof positive that if you have no answer, you simply slam the opposition.
Posted by: Awake Canadian at November 29, 2005 09:23 AM (isAlD)
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Well, even if "Liberals bad, Conservatives good" was all the CPC had, it at least has the benefit of being the truth. I'd rather have an honest government without policies than a bunch of crooks whose only policy is to hang on to power so they can keep stealing my money.
Posted by: Mike H at November 29, 2005 09:45 AM (CDbmG)
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Warbicycle, the Conservative Party policies are no secret. They are right there for all to see on their website. Go to http://www.conservative.ca and look at the menu on the left. One of the headings is Policy. Here is the link to their Policy subheading "our priorities":
http://www.conservative.ca/EN/our_priorities/
There you will find policies such as: lowering taxes; opposing 'death taxes'; improving access to health care; offering choice in child care; tackling violent crime; enforcing anti-corruption and accountability measures; defending the national interest in trade disputes; securing the borders; treating the provinces with respect. Following that are a list of key issues that go into greater detail.
If you cannot be bothered to read the plainly stated party policies, then it is dishonest to state that they don't have any.
Posted by: Ed Minchau at November 29, 2005 09:58 AM (pPVQ0)
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The Govt. has been spending at a rate of $44 million per hour, approx. So, with a 56 day election campaign that maens we will save $59,136,000,000, ($59 Billion). It is a lot cheaper for the tax payer to have an election campaign than to have the Liberal Bandits trying to buy votes.
Posted by: captbob at November 29, 2005 10:30 AM (ZJrqf)
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How can anyone serious repeat the old meme that the Conservatives have no policy? Seriously, they're the ONLY party in this country that has policy. It's been that way for over a decade.
Posted by: Jeff at November 29, 2005 10:31 AM (1k2og)
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Ed, Steven Harper's big stumbling block is the well-founded impression amongst Canadians, especially Ontarians, that the Conservative party is made up of uncompromising and dangerous social conservatives cut from the same mold as Mike Harris.
He lacks substance. He's a leader who can't control the Religious Right of his party during critical situations. His denials of their extreme positions has never seemed emphatic or sincere enough to reassure Canadians frightened or repulsed by their hate speeches. A strong leader would have expelled party members who openly called for criminalizing homosexuality; believe Day Care is unnecessary because women shouldn't work anyway; and, insist Canada is Christian nation—if you don’t like it leave.
Stephen Harper is of touch with naturalized Canadians and represents a far more serious threat to national unity than Quebec's separatists because his policies are designed to appeal to a religious minority, not to the whole country. He wonÂ’t win this election.
Posted by: at November 29, 2005 11:03 AM (+c1ek)
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Get out of the gutter.
A party bereft of ideas will always look to destroy the reputation of others.
Except more vicious attacks from the CPC.
Posted by: at November 29, 2005 11:38 AM (BX3iS)
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"...[Harper's] policies are designed to appeal to a religious minority, not to the whole country."
Can you point out where in CPC platform/policies this exists? You can't. You're just preaching the usual Liberal fear-mongering talking points - because that's all you've got.
Posted by: Rob at November 29, 2005 11:41 AM (H8tXS)
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"I wonder if they would care to know that BFI contributed $2,000 to Paul Martin's leadership campaign in May 2003. Probably just coincidence."
I think it probably is a coincidence. Anyone can buy stock. And I would imagine that, legally, insiders would have had to declare some time in advance that they intended to buy shares in their own company. That's how it works in the US, if I understand correctly.
But it does look like someone suspected something on Wednesday...
Posted by: Hamilcar at November 29, 2005 11:43 AM (TFEF0)
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No name guy just above I frankly don't think thats the case at all. 24% a government # are eligable for EI benefits. That translates into 24% of the population has jobs that pay taxes and pay into EI.
That says to me with Martin shovelling cash off the back of the truck the other 76% of the population or at least very big chunk of the other 76% is hoping for some kinda gift from the Government.
Posted by: Jeff Cosford at November 29, 2005 11:43 AM (PsShO)
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"believe Day Care is unnecessary because women shouldn't work anyway"
First, stop being a coward and sign your name, or at least some handle.
Second, that's such a laughable misconstruction of the Conservative position that I strongly suspect you're a Liberal party member reading from a Liberal talking-points script. The Conservatives believe that rather than taxing ALL Canadians in order to set up a licensed (read: PUBLIC SECTOR UNIONS) national day care system, punishing households that make the choice to have one parent stay home, the money should stay in the hands of/be returned to the parents directly so that everyone has the ability to make a better choice for themselves.
It is just plain WRONG to ask -- nay, FORCE -- families who make the choice to have one parent stay home subsidize through their hard-earned tax dollars those families who don't. That is what "national day care" truly means.
And it's the Conservatives who get accused of having a "hidden agenda".
Posted by: Ian in NS at November 29, 2005 12:26 PM (HakXQ)
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Rob,
Forget about the PC platform, US born professor Tom Flannagan is guy pulling Stephen Harper's strings. He's the racist who wrote the book "First Nations: Second Thoughts" -- which preached, among other things, that First Nations were uncivilized savages that should be assimilated.
Posted by: WarBicycle at November 29, 2005 03:34 PM (+c1ek)
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All the above comments are the usual stupidity of the left.......What is at issue here is the insider trading that went on that day and if we really investigated this further, we would find that this is just another organized onslaught on the unsuspecting public. The Liberals have to go.
Posted by: themaj at November 29, 2005 04:07 PM (Uagor)
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Kick the trash all the way to the dump. Let's have the Liberals look us straight in the eye and tell us this is just a random, unrelated event.
The Liberals continually insult Canadians by tendering "explanations" that are "progressively" more vacuous and transparent. By degree they have grown to become comical. It's a wonder how their media lapdogs are still able to file their reports whilst in the grip of involuntary convulsions of laughter.
This would have been so simple to handle: "this does indeed look odd, and we have the RCMP looking into it". Stonewalling on this tells me loud and clear that the Liberals are into it (again) up to their necks, once again excused by a useless and incompetent press.
We need a *thorough* housecleaning in Canada. Let's get started.
Posted by: Shaken at November 29, 2005 04:56 PM (u1CLP)
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All Lib supporters have is demonization through inaccurate generalizations. It's pathetic!
Posted by: Mike D at November 29, 2005 06:32 PM (yz9Vr)
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I'm a professional trader with years of experience. Your assumption that increased volume somehow proves collusion doesn't hold water.
IF the news leaked out late in the day, before the official announcement THEN those that got the news would be trying to buy up everything they could.
When reckless buying takes place, price goes up. Period. You try it.. go and buy even 5,000 shares at market on a thinly traded trust and you'll see price move. When 100K shares are being traded over a 15M period, price should move. They didn't.
Within the investment community there are ways to move shares to a willing buyer or seller without affecting price.
Big volume with a flat price indicates that big players came to an agreement and traded shares... the lack of price movement, on the back of unusual volume, indicates that this was an arranged trade between (probably) just a few willing players. Nothing more.
Regulators won't have a very hard time ascertaining what went on.
Posted by: AnonymousCoward at December 03, 2005 03:40 PM (DO7uP)
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The Seabourn
attack cruise ship Spirit was headed to Kenya before the attack. http://attack-cruise-ship.tripod.com/discovery-cruise-ship.htm
Posted by: Eric at January 28, 2006 05:53 PM (7Pm26)
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The Medicare Guaranteed and
enbrel Defined Rx Benefit and Health Provider Relief Act includes language written by Inslee which expands the Medicare program to include coverage for self-injectable drugs like Enbrel. http://enbrel.oinkspace.com/25mg-enbrel.htm
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November 28, 2005
A Bright New Future
Stephen Harper tonight:
"This is not just the end of a tired, directionless scandal-plagued government, it's the start of a bright new future for this great country," Harper said.
Well, of course, we're all happy that Carolyn Parrish is not running for re-election...
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Yaayyyyyy...the liberals are dead...yaaayyyyyyyyyyyy!
Posted by: David Lockwood at November 28, 2005 10:38 PM (NUX34)
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Not Dead Yet....never doubt that the Canadian Electorate is as disconnected as ever and will fall for liberal propaganda. I mean, come on....Neo Cons??
I hope for the best.
Posted by: greenlantern at November 28, 2005 10:42 PM (RaxRo)
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Ding Dong, the witch is dead!
;-)
Posted by: Jim Pook at November 28, 2005 10:42 PM (1VdLY)
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I posted a comment over on smalldeadanimals that is apropos here as well.
The rattlesnake is still dangerous until the head is cut off and buried.
Posted by: M.H. Wood at November 28, 2005 11:00 PM (xydow)
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he last few polls have shown a surprising degree of consistency.
SES: Lib 34% Con 28% Ndp 20%
Pollara: Lib 36% Con 28% Ndp 20% Bq 11%
Decima: Lib 33% Con 26% Ndp 22% Bq 13%
Ipsos: Lib 36%, Con 27%, NDP 16%, BQ 13%
In all cases, the Liberals have a 6 to 9% lead.
Also worth noting, 43% of British Columbia residents say they would never consider voting for Stephen Harper and the Conservatives in the next federal election. Liberals and NDP will clean up BC at the expense of the Conservatives. Western Quebec will vote Liberal as will Ontario. The Liberals and NDP will win the majority of seats in the Maritimes.
End result: Lib gain 15 to 20 seats; NDP gain 2-3 seats; BQ even; CPC loss 10 to 15 seats.
Posted by: at November 28, 2005 11:01 PM (+c1ek)
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I've never followed Canadian politics, but these past few days have been enlightening and hysterical. The mere thought of Barbara Boxer's blather alternating from English and Spanish is side-splitting!
Posted by: Tuning Spork at November 28, 2005 11:26 PM (ipCPe)
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Please pardon my ignorance of parliamentary government, but does this mean that all members of parliament are now up for re-election? I'm especially curious how this will bode for Belinda Stronach the backstabber. Thanks for enlightening me.
Posted by: SheriJo at November 28, 2005 11:35 PM (p+dyW)
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Sherijo, If Belinda's riding is made up of corporate and business voters, she could well win her riding. She is probably more conservative than her conservative opponent.
If her riding is middle and lower income, then she will lose it if those voters can see through the steady fear Harper drivel.
Some people see Belinda as a traitor and a turncoat, while many others see that she is ruthlessly smooth. She did get her hands on the levers of power in jig time for a novice MP.
TGs Place
Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 29, 2005 12:01 AM (rmMzv)
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People (outside of Toronto) aren't stupid; Paulie PM is exposed as a fraud, a liar, and a crook. The Libs will lose seats in every region; the Dippers will pick up some seats in BC; the Cons will win huge in Ontario everywhere outside of Toronto; and will likely pick up one or two seats in the 416 (as will the Dippers). A Conservative minority is ahead. Congratulations PM Harper!
Posted by: NCF TO at November 29, 2005 12:08 AM (KZY3v)
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SheriJo,
They are indeed, Belinda included. She'll probably win her riding, and if not, the Conservatives will be looking for a new leader in the new year, I expect...
David, sorry, but I think you're fooling yourself. The Tories are not about to take over the country. People in Ontario will never let it happen...the sad reality is that most of my fellow Ontarians are easily confused, spoiled people. They simply don't care about their money being stolen and misused, assuming they even realize it's happening.
The Toronto Star isn't the largest paper in the country for nothing (is it, still?) ...and most, if not all, of its readers think that endless, massive surpluses are really terrific, particularly when partially -- and temporarily -- returned to them in the form of cynical pre-election tax cuts/vote purchases.
Liberals know how many Ontarians believe the whispered stories about scary Conservative plans to legalize rape and euthanize the poor, and so Liberals will whisper them loudly. Prime Minister Martin will frighten us with tales of Stephen Harper's secret plans to shred the Charter and make sick old people pay for health care...and we'll behave like good little LibDrones.
Ontarians will not allow a Conservative government. We, as a group, are afraid of Conservative principles and policies we don't even understand -- rational fiscal management, ethical standards, individual rights and responsibilities and such.
Prove me wrong! Please!
Posted by: Darrell at November 29, 2005 12:15 AM (0YNxA)
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Congrats to Canada.
And now onwards...
Posted by: Pixy Misa at November 29, 2005 12:17 AM (RbYVY)
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I want to take this opportunity to encourage voters, particularly those in Ontario, to vote for the Liberal Party. Seriously. That way, separatism will explode in Alberta.
Please, Ontario, don't vote Conservative; that would forestall Alberta's inevitable nationhood, and allow yet more billions to be sucked out of Alberta's economy to support the rest of the country.
Vote Liberal instead, so that we in Albera can keep our money and get on with the business of forming a real nation (as opposed to the withering shell of a nation of sniveling cowards that Canada has become over the last 4 decades).
Posted by: Ed Minchau at November 29, 2005 12:34 AM (pPVQ0)
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Thanks for enlightening me. Now another stupid question: Could Paul Martin return to power as PM?
No wonder Canadians were so apprehensive about holding new elections; They have to elect a whole new parliament! It's all for the best I'm sure, but they just held elections recently so I now understand the reluctance.
I'm surprised to hear Belinda will likely win her rider after the stunt she pulled. I suppose that's small potatoes compared to the stunts the Liberanos pulled, however.
Regardless of who wins, I hope relations between the new government and the US will thaw a little.
KIndest regard Canada.
Posted by: SheriJo at November 29, 2005 01:06 AM (p+dyW)
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The answer to SheriJo is yes if his party wins the upcoming election. A prospect that fills many
Canadians with fear.
I think the Conservatives will win a minority at the next election. If a Harper Government can then show the Liberal scaremongering for the nonesense that it is, who knows what the future might hold.
Posted by: The Fog is Clearing at November 29, 2005 02:27 AM (6ZMWJ)
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A unnamed correspondent said 43% of BC electors would not consider voting for Stephen Harper.
That seems at odds with the fact the old Reform/Canadian Alliance performed better that the current Conservative Party in BC. It would suggest voters fear the old Reform message has been diluted rather than the electors have fallen for Liberal scaremongering.
I am aware that for a number of years the NDP were under a cloud in BC from which they are now emerging ? Any thoughts ?
Posted by: The Fog is Clearing at November 29, 2005 02:36 AM (6ZMWJ)
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"It's all for the best I'm sure, but they just held elections recently so I now understand the reluctance."
Yes, SheriJo, it will be about 19 months between elections and there has been a lot of talk about that in Canada, mainly and not coincidentally from those supporting the current government.
Of course, in the U.S. members of the House of Representatives face regular elections every 24 months so presumably it's not that big a deal for Americans. On the other hand, the turnout percentages for U.S. elections aren't that great sometimes, so maybe the frequency of elections does comprise a significant factor in voter alienation and/or apathy.
Posted by: Drained Brain at November 29, 2005 06:53 AM (QgMDm)
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The Liberals are dead....yaaaayyyyy. Greenlantern, you killjoy
I was celebrating the fact that we have NO government at this time...at least we can enjoy a few weeks of zero damage.
D
Posted by: David Lockwood at November 29, 2005 06:58 AM (Wr13M)
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...one thing that is going to kill the Liberals in this election though, will be their stinginess with the tax reductions...nobody was impressed with GoodSnails' crumbs in the budget...everything has it's limit, and I think Canadians are getting near the breaking point with the taxes.
D
Posted by: David Lockwood at November 29, 2005 07:10 AM (Wr13M)
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funny how the Liberal up there with the poll numbers used last week's polls and not the ones out yesterday consistently only showing a five point lead (a full swing of three to the CPC in only a week).
Given that encumbant's numbers usually fall during a campaign, the Libs look like they're in trouble.
Posted by: at November 29, 2005 07:52 AM (Y1ykG)
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The witch ain't dead yet.
You don't render a time of death until 23 January, election night.
The odds are in Harper's favor, but only slightly. The odds of him screwing up are still pretty good. Don't discount the Librano electoral machine.
Posted by: PhantomObserver at November 29, 2005 12:07 PM (U8FJD)
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Darrell, I have to wonder what you're thinking when you post something like that:
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The Tories are not about to take over the country. People in Ontario will never let it happen...the sad reality is that most of my fellow Ontarians are easily confused, spoiled people. They simply don't care about their money being stolen and misused, assuming they even realize it's happening.
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Did it ever occur to you that if you wanted your fellow conservatives to win Ontario, calling Ontarians "easily confused" and "spoiled" is not the best way to do it?
Maybe your next move should be writing an article about why Quebec will never vote Conservative because "they're little yellow cowards who are too busy eating poutine to care about their country", or something along those lines. I hear Quebecers love being insulted by conservatives almost as much as we Ontarians do.
Posted by: Ade at November 29, 2005 12:55 PM (4p91Z)
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"Liberals know how many Ontarians believe the whispered stories about scary Conservative plans to legalize rape and euthanize the poor, and so Liberals will whisper them loudly. Prime Minister Martin will frighten us with tales of Stephen Harper's secret plans to shred the Charter and make sick old people pay for health care...and we'll behave like good little LibDrones."
The above must be true I read it here.....sheeesh
I only have to mention two names for a reason NOT to vote conservative.
Brian Mulroney
Mike Harris
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Vote Liberal instead, so that we in Albera can keep our money and get on with the business of forming a real nation (as opposed to the withering shell of a nation of sniveling cowards that Canada has become over the last 4 decades)."
Please spare us. Mr Klein's assertion during the mad cow scare that it's Canada's problem (send us some money)really shows his hypocrisy.He wanted the rest of the country to eat Alberta beef but don't even think about asking for gravy (also known as OIL). Go ahead buddy form your own nation.Typical conservative....it's all about money.Buy an island and have it your way.....leave Canadian soil to true Canadians.
"No man is rich until he realizes he has enough"
Posted by: True Canadian at November 29, 2005 05:48 PM (PMtKA)
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"Did it ever occur to you that if you wanted your fellow conservatives to win Ontario, calling Ontarians 'easily confused' and 'spoiled' is not the best way to do it?"
Aside from the fact that my post wasn't an attempt to convert Ontario liberals but simply to note their existence, and to place upon them the responsibility for repeated, corrupt, theiving Liberal governments, do you have another explanation for the sea of Liberal red that is an electoral map of Ontario?
Do you recall Martin's reponse to a reporter's Adscam question -- prior to the last election, I think -- which was that Stephen Harper had a secret agenda and would Americanize our health care?
Despite this apparent act of stupidity, Martin is not a stupid man. He's well aware that people vote out of fear, and he knows how to scare the easily scared Ontario electorate, which is the only electorate he cares about. By all means prove me wrong.
As for your comment about yellow cowards in Quebec; you said it, I didn't, and, just to avoid confusion, I hereby disassociate myself completely from your appalling views on that subject.
Posted by: Darrell at November 30, 2005 09:20 AM (tw2Sk)
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"Go ahead buddy form your own nation."
Vote Liberal and help Alberta make it happen!
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The Abotech Affair: West Quebec Post article becomes a "clipping" for the Conservatives
A minor bit of interest, but Pierre Poilievre, MP for Nepean-Carleton, has incorporated the West Quebec Post article about David Smith into his web site as a "clipping" to highlight his work representing his constituents' interests.
Of course, Poilievre is not running against David Smith, who represents the riding of Pontiac, but Laurence Cannon is. And Laurence Cannon, the Conservative Party candidate in Pontiac, is certain to be handing out copies of the article throughout the riding.
Will this make a difference? Well, though many of us outside of Quebec don't recognize the name "Laurence Cannon", inside Quebec, it is very well known. He was a communications minister under Robert Bourassa, and he comes from a family of politicians and business giants.
He is one of the Conservative Party's best bets for a seat in this election, and a leader for further gains in elections to come.
And maybe, just maybe, I helped out a little bit.
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Well done, Angry - I'm glad you persevered in chasing down the Abotech details. It could matter a great deal.
Posted by: Linda at November 28, 2005 09:59 PM (oCPrU)
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Angry, Please, never sell your self short. I have followed this story (and a couple others, with great interest). I am so thankful that finally there is a place ("blogging") that lets the truth come out! Keep up the great work! If we still had to listen to the media for the truth, it would be evil Harper. What can be more evil that the last 12 years of the Liberal's and buddies? Cheers! Here's to a new beginning!
Posted by: Mary at November 28, 2005 10:34 PM (/fb+d)
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Angry--on behalf of all right thinking Canadians--THANK-YOU
Posted by: George at November 28, 2005 11:55 PM (6uEUT)
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"And maybe, just maybe, I helped out a little bit."
This is what I had hoped the blogosphere would embrace and you can take a lot of pride in being at the forfront of it in Canada.
What did I read a few months ago-that Canadian bloggers are pussies. Well, perhaps some others are. You should take great pride in your efforts and the results.
Thank you.
Horny Toad
Posted by: at November 29, 2005 12:50 AM (1MfAa)
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As far as I'm concerned, "helped out" doesn't even come close to describing it, Steve.
I can't begin to thank you for your great investigative work.
I do wonder if this will get ignored / lost in the shuffle with all the election news. However, I am going to continue to work on this.
Sometimes it seems the media has its priorities, well, messed up. I sent your other thread on this to the entire CFRA news team, but one of Steve Madely's "top five" stories this morning was discussing whether or not Mike Harris (former Ontario premier) used the F-word in 1995 when he was discussing Native people in a park. This is important? It was ten years ago and he's not even an elected official anymore, as far as I know.
I think the blogosphere is especially important now. I also heard an interview with someone from the National Citizens' Coalition, I believe, who discussed the "gag" law in elections. From now on, apparently, citizens and issue groups cannot advertise, etc. On the airwaves and in print, we can only hear from the candidates themselves. I'll find a source to this law later, but it was upheld by the Supreme Court of Canada.
So much for free speech. This reminds me of the U.S. Supreme Court upholding McCain-Feingold. That was absolutely infuriating.
One other thought--I was curious why Pierre Poilievre was pushing this. He is so young--perhaps he's just idealist and very anti-corruption?
Posted by: JulieM at November 29, 2005 08:21 AM (ywZa8)
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Here are some sample Questions the voter will be asking liberal candidates....
1. Do you have any GOLF COURSES, you intend to sell, using napkins as reciepts..?
2. Do you have any buddies needing loans from the taxpayer to buy or renovate any bankrupt hotels..?
3. Once posted to the Netherlands, do you intend to clean-up any money trails, with side-trips to Switzerland..?
4. Given that a Liberal bagman holds the contract,for the cafeteria at RCMP headquarters, has anyone swept said cafeteria for camera's or listening devices..?
5. Are you a socialist, Like Scott Brison, who only claims to be a liberal..?
6. Why are'nt you with the NDP..? Isn't that where your kind of policys belong..?
7. What was your cut from the still missing 40 million dollars..?
8. Where's my cut..?
9. How many more immigrants are needed to give the liberals, majority government for life..?
10. How many entitlements are you entitled to..?
There are many more similar type questions...
Hey Liberals are you starting to get the drift..?
Posted by: B Wylie Ajax, Ont. at November 29, 2005 12:01 PM (TBGSf)
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I am not sure you helped, I believe Brazeau will be able to sue Cannon and Polievre for defamation.
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Dirty tricks in Gary Lunn's riding? Didn't happen
Update: Apparently there is something to this after all.
Yesterday I posted about a rumour going around that constituents in Gary Lunn's riding in British Columbia were receiving calls from someone pretending to be speaking on Lunn's behalf. That person would then chat and let drop the little bombshell that Gary Lunn doesn't support Stephen Harper. The rumour then has it that the person called Gary Lunn's home, presumably unintentionally, and that Lunn has since gotten in touch with the press and the RCMP.
I just got off the phone with Gary Lunn's executive assistant in the BC constituency office, and he says the story simply isn't true. I sent him the link to the original post in Free Dominion, and he's double-checking with the boss, but is certain he would have heard something.
And he made it absolutely clear: Gary Lunn fully supports Stephen Harper!
Cute story. But it looks like this was one crime the Liberals did not perpetrate.
We'll just have to settle for all the other ones.
[Looks like small dead animals is also confirming that this story is just a fabrication.]
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Off topic, but can someone provide links to PM PM's pro Iraq war quotes. I need them for a debate I'm having.
Thanks
Posted by: MSFan at November 28, 2005 12:51 PM (Q/4hs)
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I am pretty sure Angry had them here somewhere or maybe it was someone in the comment section who posted a link?? Make sure you check with Canadian Sentinel and SDA. I wish that I had saved them myself too. Maybe one of the bloggers will create a "hypocrital statements" section with links? It would be a big one for sure! :-)
Posted by: Anne (mad in Ontario) at November 28, 2005 01:35 PM (glkWC)
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For the Martin "Iraq" quotes, wander over to warrenkinsella.com and scroll down to November 11.
... Glad to hear this rumour was just that. Hopefully nobody was confused by it.
Posted by: Paul O at November 28, 2005 01:47 PM (GPT2t)
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There's a lesson to be learned here.
Posted by: Ade at November 28, 2005 04:28 PM (4p91Z)
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A "lesson to be learned here" Ade???
Yes there is; I never lie - my post on Free Dominion was 100% accurate as to what I saw and heard.
Posted by: Gord at November 29, 2005 02:15 PM (rp6r3)
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Can't help MSFan with the PM's pro-Iraq war quotes, but he might call Lunn's assistant and ask him for some of Lunn's; a couple of days after the invasion and 'ol Gary was all for it. Remind him of it now and he gets really testy!
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Don't open emails from the CIA or the FBI
Unless, of course, you routinely get emails from the CIA or the FBI.
But for the rest of us, there is an email worm circulating that preys on natural human curiousity:
The latest Sober worm, first spotted over the weekend, has generated the vast majority of virus-laden e-mail traffic in the past 24 hours and could cause problems for corporate e-mail gateways, security companies said.
This variant of Sober generates e-mails that purport to be from the CIA or FBI. These messages tell the recipient they have been looking at illegal Web sites and should answer some questions in the e-mail's attachment. If the attachment is opened, the computer is infected, and the virus sends copies of itself to any e-mail addresses found on the hard drive.
So don't worry. Visiting the website of the Conservative Party to study their platform in the hours before an election call might not be something that the Liberal government wants you to do, but it's not illegal.
Anyway, the FBI is not likely to be interested in what you are doing online.
Unless, possibly, your name is Alfonso Gagliano.
[Hat tip to TG]
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Actually the worm is in e-mails from other addresses as well. I monitor e-mails for a number of mailboxes and I've seen the worm in messages purporting to be from other mailbox admins as well as bounce mail messages and ones that are offering nude photos of Paris Hilton (as if I needed any more of those). One tipoff is that the attachment is a .zip file, around 76 or 77k in size.
Posted by: David Simpson at November 28, 2005 03:03 PM (SJsen)
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Are we talking "Organised" Crime here?
Who knew??
Posted by: Slim at November 28, 2005 03:28 PM (t5oLS)
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Or, you could just not run Windows...
Posted by: Dave Balderstone at November 28, 2005 06:59 PM (FteTO)
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The November 14 issue of MacLean's has this gem on page 88: "The line between government and party was erased. And with it, so was the distinction between government and organized crime."
MSM, chiming in on organized crime. Sue them too, Mr. Dithers.
Posted by: Shaken at November 28, 2005 08:11 PM (luTRh)
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This has been out for at least three weeks. I do agree with Dave though. We need more Macheads. I'm running Tiger on a 1 Gz Powerbook. I *never* check for viruses and it has never crashed in at least a year. All of my family and friends, except for one son, run Windows. They are always complaining about something. Poor things.
Sorry, I just had to brag a bit.
Posted by: John Crittenden at November 28, 2005 09:45 PM (q3a5q)
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Gotta love the evolution of the Net: from DARPA-net to chimps who can't tell the difference between "URL" and "USB", all in twenty years. Truly, the dumbing down of a great information resource. (And Macs just make it easier for the illiterati to gain access...)
Posted by: Reg at November 28, 2005 10:29 PM (8i56i)
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Reg. That reminds me of what a good friend running DOS said when he first saw me using a mouse. He laughed and laughed. Now I bet even you're using one.
What do you mean by "(And Macs just make it easier for the illiterati to gain access...)" Are you suggesting that the resource is more important than the information?
Posted by: John Crittenden at November 28, 2005 11:15 PM (q3a5q)
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Thanks for this posting. This helps all Conservative Bloggers and any one with a Computer.
I'll pass this on. Thx.
Posted by: Allan at November 28, 2005 11:16 PM (0MhOR)
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>We need more Macheads. I'm running Tiger on a 1 >Gz Powerbook. I *never* check for viruses and it >has never crashed in at least a year.
Look at it this way, John:
If I'm a kid wanting to stick it to Society, am I going to disseminate a virus which will attack the computers of the world's 544 Mac users, or one which will piss off more than 2 billion?
Posted by: Alienated at November 29, 2005 02:12 AM (BYy3w)
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Smart Government, Smart Car, Dumb Driver
Of course, the nanny state that is Canada loves this idea:
Transport Canada is road-testing cutting-edge devices that use global positioning satellite technology and a digital speed-limit map to know when a driver is speeding, and to try to make them stop.
When a driver hits a certain percentage above the posted speed limit, the device kicks in and makes it difficult to press the accelerator.
[Dr. Peter Burns, chief of ergonomics and crash avoidance with Transport Canada's road safety directorate,] said proponents of such devices are enthusiastic about the potential to reduce deaths and injuries from car crashes, as well as reduce greenhouse-gas emissions, which are greater at higher speeds.
So who makes this equivalent of a backseat driver? A company in Sweden. No surprises there.
Two things come to mind.
Since the system is GPS-based, and requires knowledge of where you are, this is essentially a citizen tracking system. Just one more way for the government to know what you're doing.
The second thing is that this will, of course, generate a whole new black market for devices or modifications to defeat the system. Some will focus on foiling the internal feedback system tied to the accelerator. Others will target the GPS itself, since if the system doesn't know where you are, it won't know that you're speeding.
Then there will be the GPS-jammers. Some will be frauds, doing nothing but filling the pockets of scam artists. Others might work, even partly, and will create havoc wherever they are turned on.
And then the constitutional challenges, perhaps launched by provinces fighting what they see as another federal intrusion on a provincial responsibility.
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And what about municipal authority, Angry. If, like me, you live in Calgary, this device would present a whole new challenge. The city council here has asked the local policia to write 20,000 more tickets a year as a fund raising measure so they can say they're not raising taxes. Btw, this is the same local gummint/police force that argued in the media, a couple years ago that there is NO quota on traffice tickets for the force. If the feds start taking away people's ability to break traffic laws, it severely restricts the municipality's abilty to raise funds this way.....Come to think of it.....wouldn't that make them more dependant on the Feds for transfers? That is SO liberal.
Posted by: Rob R at November 28, 2005 11:08 AM (y9Fs6)
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Great idea. Let's start by putting them in the transport trucks that drive their dangerous weapons with impunity in vote-rich Ontario, crushing citizens on a regular basis. Should be simple to add a device to report distance to vehicle in front over the same telemetry channel.
Posted by: Shaken at November 28, 2005 11:27 AM (luTRh)
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Insurance companies will love this. Heck they may even require it or at least base rates on whether you have it or not.
Posted by: Tom at November 28, 2005 11:31 AM (T7ccA)
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Wouldn't this actually be DANGEROUS?
I mean, what if you need to accellerate to avoid a log truck that's behind you and unable to stop on snow or ice (something I've seen a lot of up here in Thunder Bay).
Or, you're coming down a hill and a transport's behind you, and is about to run you over, wouldn't you want your car to accellerate?!
I can think of many more situations in which the lack of response would result in additional hazard to the driver.
Posted by: paulm at November 28, 2005 11:35 AM (SbwvP)
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What's really frightening are some of the comments following the article from people who think this is a great idea and since people won't take personal responsibility, well, the government will just have to force it on them. These are probably some of the same people that think Stephen Harper is "scary."
It takes an Albertan to put the thing in perspective:
Mr Fijne from Calgary writes: Soon we'll need a GPS to have sex the proper way...
Posted by: TimR at November 28, 2005 11:43 AM (7d0Ke)
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In Europe (or at least the parts I've visited), virtually all transport trucks are governed down to 90 km/hr. If TPTB seriously wanted to tackle excess speed and emissions on the highways, they should just do that to start. More effective, more secure (imagine if someone hacked the speed-limit maps) and probably a hell of a lot cheaper.
Posted by: Ian in NS at November 28, 2005 12:30 PM (HakXQ)
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Insisting on personal responsibility is fine when the consequences of abdicating that responsibility only affect yourself. But a careless driver stands a good chance of hurting or killing a lot more people than just himself. Let's consider that before we get on our moral high horses about the idea of even suggesting that some kind of safety measures could be implemented.
In truth, I agree that any kind of remote-control solution is the wrong approach. Either you control all the cars remotely or you don't control any; anything in between just changes the dynamics of the inevitable collisions. But considering that one of the single biggest causes of death today is injuries sustained from car crashes, I don't think it's particularly "nanny-state" for a government to look for new ways to lower that number.
Posted by: Stephen J. at November 28, 2005 12:35 PM (+7vgB)
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What's next - I figure in the name of the nanny state - that the government will require all citizens to have monitors and GPS units inbedded in all of us to track if we have too much alcohol, tobacco, or fatty foods so that the state can send social workers to arrest you for 'endangering' public health care by enjoying life.
Posted by: Mitch at November 28, 2005 12:38 PM (qBSdw)
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When are you people going to understand that government control is not good in and of itself? Just because a thing is possible does not mean it will be effective or even faintly desireable if run by government, particularly OUR government.
If the Big Brother GPS unit can control your acceleration it can also shut your car off. Anybody think some Liberal vote scrounger won't figure out that rationing mileage in Toronto would be popular with the non-driving Greenie population?
How about certain streets with zero kph speed limits? How about a global car shutdown in case of "emergency", that being decided by whim of the sitting party? How about if you break ANY traffic law your car stops, calls the cops on you and remembers what you did for court purposes?
All easilly included in the black box when they stick it in your car. I'm not going to drive that car. Nuh uh.
Being a gearhead myself, I can attest to Angry's assertion about black market circumventions. That would be about the first thing I'd do, install a kill switch to disconnect the bloody thing on demand. There is no possible black box that can't be wired around, linkage that can't be disconnected or radio that can't be jammed. You could even make a spoofer box that convinces the thing its sitting in the garage, parked.
And by the way, does Canada even have any GPS satelites? Nope. American. Meaning the off switch is sitting on George Bush's desk. You want to leave all the road traffic in the country at the mercy of the Americans? Think "Cattle Blockade" or "Softwood Lumber".
Finally, who's going to pay for all this? Hmmm? YOU ARE, that's who. And you are going to pay a buttload too. This is the same government that has spent two BILLION dollars just to set up a flippin' database. Imagine them trying to set up something like this.
Posted by: The Phantom at November 28, 2005 01:51 PM (nAMT1)
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Phantom hits it bang-on: these federal morons couldn't set up a database to track STATIC firearms, without over$pending by 500x. Can you imagine the wasted cash if they tried to bankroll this Orwellian nightmare for moving objects?
Not to worry, though. I have ultimate faith in the federal government's ability to screw up; they'd never get this thing to work without either (a) causing accidents and death and (b) mass traffic gridlock
What's really alarming, though, is that nice, earnest, reasonable Canadians think that this further governmental intrusion/control is perhaps justified, "if it saves lives". Worse, yet, they may be highly placed in Transport Canada.
The "if it only saves 1 life" crowd in action, again. Arrrghhhhh !!! Here are some other suggestions to adopt, because you know they'd save "at least ONE life":
- Mandate all driving speeds to 50 KMH on highways, and 10kmh in cities. That'll save TONS of lives!
- Abolish all alcohol & tobacco sales/consumption (this would also help reduce healthcare costs, so it has a double benefit).
- Ban bicycles, roller blades & skateboards, as head injuries - despite MANDATED helmet use - are sometimes fatal.
- Ban snowmobiles and watercraft - too many accidents and drownings with these awful things
- Eliminate personal pilot licenses: nobody "needs" to fly an airplane for personal enjoyment; you should only fly in a commercial plane 'cause it's safer. And even then, you should take the train, 'cause that's safer, still. Oh, what the hell. NO FLYING, PERIOD.
- Forget about skiing, Pal. Too many fatal accidents AND back-country skiers wasted in avalanches.
- Rock climbing, mountaineering & spelunking: you've got a hope
- Hunting and target shooting: you're kidding, right? A firearm is merely an obituary not yet sent to press.
- Ban all fast food restaurants, junk food, or the selling of any sustenance that isn't either leafy-green or granola-crunchy. Mmmmmmm... isn't eating healthy FUN?
There! And that's just a partial list right off the top. This will save many lives, and reduce healthcare costs to boot!
Are you feeling safer yet? Energized and re-vitalized for the future?
Or would you rather stick your head in your gas oven and end the pain right about now?
FACT for all the nanny-state do-good safety cocoon nazis: NOBODY gets out of living alive, no matter how safe you think you are. And if you want to live out your end-of-days hermit-style in your parents' basement, or armoured inside a plastic bubble, more power to you. Just stay to hell away from me when you think of mandating that across the board, thanksverymuch.
And Stephen J: better think long & hard about leaving your home, tonight. There is Death & Destruction LURKING AT EVERY CORNER...
sjd(at)cogeco(d0t)ca
Posted by: SJD at November 28, 2005 05:22 PM (rVPY9)
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Actually, GPS is easy to jam locally -- remember that you are trying to jam the local receiver, not GPS in general. It's not a very strong signal anyway -- won't work indoors, in a tunnel, etc. Probably easiest thing to do is short the antenna. Or disconnect it. Not that any Canadian would do such a thing.
In the US in the 70's they had a buzzer that went off at 55MPH. Very few such buzzers remained connected for long and they recinded the regulation after a year or so.
Stupid idea, actually.
Posted by: Kevin Murphy at November 28, 2005 07:23 PM (LN6R1)
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SJD: You know, there's a difference between making a point and beating a horse 'til it's dead. There *are* such things as reasonable civic safety precautions, and the *point* of having a government at all is to mandate such things. That occasional proposals may go overboard in their procedures doesn't mean the motivation isn't worth respecting, or that any attempt to make things safer for the majority of us is "nanny-stating".
Maybe you could trot out your sarcasm again after you've lost somebody close to you to a car accident, or after you have a baby and get used to checking every driveway and street corner for careless drivers *far* more rigorously than you ever did on your own account.
Posted by: Stephen J. at November 29, 2005 09:55 AM (+7vgB)
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Stephen,
Perhaps there are "reasonable safety precautions".
But why is it the point of government to mandate these things?
If you want a GPS acceleration controller on your car, go buy on and get someone to install it.
Leave the rest of us alone.
And, rest assured, if I ever lose someone close to me in a car accident, I will blame the individual driver of the car, not the highway system.
As for checking while backing up, if this system makes people feel so safe that they do not think they have to pay close attention when driving, I would guess that we may see increased accidents, instead of lower.
Posted by: MB at November 29, 2005 12:01 PM (g0HCI)
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>Insisting on personal responsibility is fine when the consequences of abdicating that responsibility only affect yourself.
Finally, a statist who is willing to cast aside that silly notion that the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation. Legislation and monitoring for all! No more public health problems; no more fractured families; no more unwanted children! Yay!
Posted by: lrC at November 29, 2005 05:17 PM (XDL9B)
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Stephen J:
Actually, Canada's problem is no matter how badly you beat the horse, it still manages to stand, wobbling but yearning for government support.
Look. The majority of the examples I listed above were, for the most part, tongue-in-cheek. The underlying concern is real, however: there are far too many Canadians whose biggest collective fear is the horrific possibility of wresting responsibility and control of own their lives from the government and taking charge of it themselves.
Need some examples of nanny-state intrusion with no discernible benefit?
How about the gun registry, for starters. Five hundred times (or more) overspent, vast numbers of yet-as-unregistered long guns remainingÂ… and the streets of Toronto resemble Dodge City these past 12 months due to the use of unregistered in a couple of square miles of controversial, politically-untouchable turf. And we still have the head-nodding government-hooked Canadian public Borg saying the registry is "worth it if it only saves ONE life".
It isn't.
We are sacrificing personal freedoms and property rights on a useless canard that solves nothing. The registry is merely window dressing; a feel-good non-solution to a deadly problem, ill-conceived and hastily rammed through parliament without informed debate and research. Typical of the federal liberals. Rather than punish the wrongdoers specifically with lengthy prison terms, the nanny-state approach - lauded by many social “elites” - is to infringe on the rights of everyone. We mustn’t actually keep murderers in prison for life WITHOUT parole, hmm? That’d be socially unsophisticated of us, especially when the offenders aren’t really to blame, what with sad childhoods and all. If the liberals were truly interested in saving lives, why not spend that $1billion or so on national MRI's, which would really help prevent unnecessary deaths?
So it is with speeding.
Rather than come down hard on the speeders (demerit points, higher fines/penalties), the Mindless Ones would prefer to climb inside your engine and govern how you drive. But I guess, Stephen, that you are less concerned about your lost rights to hold yourself accountable and make your own choices than in blind pursuit of government-enforced "safety", right?
This isn't about saving lives, pal. It's about government control. Pity you can't see it that way.
A properly functioning government's role is to assist in the workings of the country, province or municipality with a MINIMUM of state intrusion. And hold the criminals and other scofflaws to strict account when they break the rules. At least, that's what should happen in a healthy democracy where the government expects folks to have a large measure of self-reliance first, and needless dependence on government intervention last. Agreed: this is indeed a balancing act. However, in Canada, compared to the US, say, the balance beam always swings overboard to the side of excess government intervention, regulation and control. This is tedious at best, and damaging to a population's ability to cope and function effectively at worst, especially in the face of disaster or calamity. Whenever something annoying or detrimental to society occurs, how often do you hear the Canadian mantra, ”Why doesn’t the government DO something about that”, rather than “What can WE do about that”? The diminution of the public’s self-reliance and the need to suckle of the state’s calming teat is an increasingly disturbing trend in this country, and helps ensure we continue to see big, controlling governments ad infinitum.
That hilights one of the key differences between Canadians and Americans: we are a ruled people; the Americans govern themselves.
Want another example of nanny-state overboard regulation & control? What about healthcare?
The liberals and NDP would have you believe that actually taking personal responsibility for your own health is the beginning of the end of Canuckistan healthcare. (Side note: this, while Paul Martin's own doctor owns the country's largest private healthcare clinic. The hypocrisy is staggering).
It isn't.
What could be more disenfranchising than telling somebody who's sick and can't wait months for a specialist or MRI that they're not allowed to purchase extra services, even when it may save their lives in the process? Why can you pay for an MRI for your dog, but not your sick wife or child?
If one of my kids needed an MRI and the wait was 5 or 6 months (not unheard of in the Greater Toronto Area), then yeah, I'd drive to Buffalo and plunk down hard cash to pay for it. And maybe that'd mean we didn't rent that cottage or go on that long vacation trip next summerÂ… but that'd be MY personal choice and responsibility to make.
Not some overpaid faceless government bureaucrat's. And, I'd feel damn good about making it.
As to your throwaway examples to spike my sarcasm (mea culpa), I call out both of them:
Had a close uncle die in a self-inflicted alcohol-related car accident some years ago, and fortunately he didn't take anybody with him. Had he lived, would I have supported a 2 or 3 year driving ban or jail time for him? Yep. Do I march with the nanny-state Frightened Ones and demand a zero tolerance blood alcohol limit - when there is clear evidence that the majority of citizens enjoy a drink or two without causing automotive disaster, when it's a small majority of re-offenders that cause the carnage? Not a chance; draconian general measures won't solve the problem where personal accountability is needed. I donÂ’t think that balance beam should drop completely into the Paranoid setting.
As for your other example, we have a 6-week-old infant at home. And damn straight: I drive far more defensively now than I have in a long time, as it's MY responsibility first to safeguard his welfare by driving like everyone's out to kill us, and any governmentÂ’s responsibility second. But will I lobby Transport Canada or some other clueless government agency to radio control the speed of vehicles within range of my home to make sure he's "safe"?
Get real.
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Government-controlled vacations
A Liberal MP wants the government to stand in judgement of how you spend your free time.
You do the "right" thing, and the government will toss back a bit of your tax money.
Apparently, this will help Canadians learn to love their country.
Right...
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Poll suggests Mr. Harper's personal unpopularity helps sustain the Liberal party; almost 40 per cent of people who said they would vote Liberal cited Mr. Harper as their main motivation. Had you kept Preston Manning the conservatives would probably be in power today.
Posted by: WarBicycle at November 28, 2005 07:54 AM (+c1ek)
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I wonder if he was as creative when recommending certain tax write-offs to his clients when he managed his own accounting firm.
Posted by: JM at November 28, 2005 08:22 AM (NBQHV)
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Liberal's come up with some pretty stupid ideas, talk about unworkable and potential for fraudulant claims, that's why it's a Liberal idea.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at November 28, 2005 08:47 AM (NGZzF)
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Yes, Canada would do poorly with an honest, quiet, intelligent and motivated PM like Mr. Harper. Liberals always complain he has a secret agenda that he might force on the country and democracy will fall to his powers as PM, yet we see Mr. Martin meet with Mr. Layton in a Toronto hotel to pass over 4.5 BILLION to keep his government alive and Liberals look the other way...
Our PM has a fleet of ships that sail under the flag of a foreign country to avoid payin Canadian taxes and having his employee's protected under Canadian employment standards, again, no backlash...
Millions of dollars get passed out in contracts to friends of the Liberal party in Quebec, and then get funneled back to the Liberal party - PROVEN - again, little backlash...
How can Canadians remain so afraid of Harper, when we have witnessed so much from the Liberals?
Posted by: at November 28, 2005 08:53 AM (isAlD)
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...yes, more thought control from the House of Love...who can afford to go on ANY vacation at all anyway...oh, maybe all the government employees getting the kickbacks...zombies. I guess they've discovered an area of our lives they haven't invaded yet, so of course, they can't resist.
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Posted by: David Lockwood at November 28, 2005 10:42 AM (JJM4n)
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Interesting to the first comment here:
"Poll suggests Mr. Harper's personal unpopularity helps sustain the Liberal party; almost 40 per cent of people who said they would vote Liberal cited Mr. Harper as their main motivation. Had you kept Preston Manning the conservatives would probably be in power today.
Posted by: WarBicycle at November 28, 2005 07:54 AM "
It was reported yesterday that in BC a Telephone pollster aparrently calling on behalf of MP Lunn informed the callee that Lunn was not a supporter of Harper.
The Libs are trying to devide so they can conquor again. Don't fall for the BS about to become a full scale SH-T STORM.
Posted by: captbob at November 28, 2005 11:02 AM (ZJrqf)
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Liberal Pork: All around the pig's tails, is Liberal Pork....grunt, grunt, oink, oink.. here piggies ... oink at this trough: Taxpayer Paid Vacations for Liberal pigs-at-the-trough>>>>>
By STEPHANIE RUBEC, PARLIAMENTARY BUREAU
Two dozen senior Health Canada mandarins held a retreat this past summer, only one hour from their Ottawa homes in one of Eastern Canada's most luxurious resorts, and billed taxpayers almost $10,000 for guest rooms alone.
Of the 24 execs who attended, two top bureaucrats failed to declare expenses on their department's website, breaching rules requiring timely public disclosure of hospitality and travel expenses.
According to the Fairmont Chateau Montebello's room roster, obtained by Sun Media, 24 mostly Ottawa-based top Health Canada officials overnighted at the luxurious red-cedar log chateau, on the banks of the Ottawa River about 80 km east of Ottawa, in late June.
Some directors and deputy ministers stayed two nights, while others slept over one night in the resort's elegant rooms and suites -- paying an average $335 per night.
TRANSPORT BILL
In addition to the rooms, which came with a meal plan, taxpayers were also stuck with the transportation costs of getting the bureaucrats out there, as well as additional meals and incidentals.
The steepest bill belonged to Manitoba and Saskatchewan's acting regional director general, Darryl Embury; it rang in at $1875.16, including $1,062 for airfare and $520 for two nights at the chateau. >>>>
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Posted by: maz2 at November 28, 2005 11:21 AM (3KAKu)
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The proposal also has preferred methods of travel: 100 per cent deduction for bus tickets, 75 per cent for train, and 40 per cent for plane. No one who wants to travel leisurely across country (and spend lots of money) via gas-guzzling RVs or SUVs or even hybrid cars need apply. I'm sure there are thousands of Albertans eagerly looking forward to a free Greyhound bus trip to Ontario. (Note to Pacetti: people who travel by bus usually don't spend a lot of money in the local economies.)
Why not concentrate on making airline travel in Canada cheaper by reducing fees and taxes on airports, fuel and tickets?
And imagine the bureaucracy needed to oversee such a program? Just what we need - a billion dollar vacation registry.
Posted by: TimR at November 28, 2005 11:23 AM (7d0Ke)
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You're right that it's easier for Maritimers to cross three provincial borders than westerners. You did neglect to mention, however, that among the people most burdened to satisfy Mr Pacetti's ludicrous conditions would be millions and millions of southern Ontarians. Not everything is a conspiracy, Mr Angry — some things are just stupid ideas.
Posted by: Chris Selley at November 28, 2005 11:26 AM (KKKQk)
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First, the Socialist proposes "supporting" your vacation. Then, your car (we're behind on Kyoto, don't ya know). Your entertainment. Your smoking (oops - they already took that one). Your drinking. Then, the state will run your dinner table.
A Socialist knows no boundaries over which you deserve freedom, and is creative in how to introduce taking your freedoms away.
(Unfortunately, there are also times that non-socialists get caught up in such stupidity.)
And remember, if you don't vote for these Liberals then you must not love your country. Yeesh.
Posted by: Paul O at November 28, 2005 11:31 AM (LxJN/)
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Question: what would cost Canadians more, an idea like this one proposed by a Liberal MP, or getting involved in the war in Iraq, as proposed by Stephen Harper?
"Thank you for saying to our friends in the United States of America, you are our ally, our neighbour, and our best friend in the whole wide world. And when your brave men and women give their lives for freedom and democracy we are not neutral. We do not stand on the sidelines; we're for the disarmament of Saddam and the liberation of the people of Iraq." - Stephen Harper, Friends of America Rally, April 4, 2003.
Or how about participation in the American Ballistic Missile Defence (BMD) program, again supported by Harper and the Conservatives? What would that have cost us in terms of money, resources, and land, not to mention international prestige and respect?
You wonder why Canadians don't like the idea of Harper and the Conservatives too much, even though a majority of us want the Liberals out? Those are two good reasons.
Harper would have dragged us into the Iraq quagmire just like Blair dragged Britain, even though a clear majority of Canadians wanted nothing to do with it. It would have cost us billions and worse, it would have cost us lives.
Posted by: Ade at November 28, 2005 11:35 AM (4p91Z)
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Ade, you're stuck on stupid. This is a thread about socialist manipulation of our lives, not your personal fear that Harper might have done the right thing.
And as far as international prestige, I'd rather it came from America and Australia than France and Belgium. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Posted by: Mike H at November 28, 2005 12:20 PM (CDbmG)
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Ade -
Nothing for you to fret over the Canuck military. Twelve years of liberal mismanagement have gutted the Armed Forces to the point where they're practically unarmed; perhaps that's why they're no longer called the "Canadian ARMED Forces". Johnny Cretin shuffled a meager 2000 soldiers to Afghanistan to prevent us from participating in Iraq, and that shows how pitiful the state of our military has become.
As for spending taxpayer dough, not to worry, Ade - on any controversial missions such as these, we can always beg a ride from the US (we have no airlift capability), or pay the Russians cash-on-hand to ferry our DART team hither and yon.
And why are you blathering over defense spending, anyway? It's the US taxpayer who's foot the bill for Canada's defense the past 30 years, allowing the libs to spend our taxdollars on more important items like... er,... Quebec advertisers... umm, ... Dingwall golden parachutes... er... multimillion-dollar programs to supply Canuck flags... ahh...subsidized vacations for senior Liberal bureaucrats...
As for BMD, better review your recent history, pal. The US asked for NOTHING in terms of Canadian cash funding; they only wanted our agreement in principle. Or at least, no palpable show of outward disagreement. The Americans were footing the bill, and maybe we'd provide a token officer or two to shuffle papers for show. As Mark Steyn noted, it was the ideal defense program for Canada's participation: we could appear helpful without actually doing anything useful.
But please don't let facts stand in the way of a good, intellectually-lazy left-wing whine.
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Posted by: SJD at November 28, 2005 04:14 PM (rVPY9)
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November 27, 2005
Did well-connected Liberal friends benefit in any way?
That's the question being asked by NDP Finance Critic Judy Wasylycia-Leis.
It'll be a question asked by the chairman of the Ontario Securities Commission.
It'll be a question asked by RCMP financial investigators.
And if there's any justice, it'll be asked by Canadians when they are looking at their ballots.
How would they have benefited? By taking advantage of a convenient leak of a crucial tax decision from Finance Minister Ralph Goodale's office last week:
On Friday, CBC News reported that trading in many income trusts and dividend-paying stocks became much heavier than usual late Wednesday – just before the government announced that it would not tax trusts and would cut the tax on stocks that pay dividends.
And several published reports said investors knew early about the plan, which lowers taxes on some stock returns.
Here's one such "published report". And here is an example of the weird trading patterns.
What was that about the Liberal Party being utterly unlike an organized criminal syndicate?
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When you look at that blank ballot. Please try to go down the list of diverted Canadian tax dollars.
Many others as well as I, have tried to draw up lists of scams and they are so numerous the complete list is just not possible.
Big scams like the HRDC fiasco. $146 million in missing HP/Compaq computers for the DND. The many seperate and different scams that are lumped under the label called Adscam or Sponsorhip.
Certainly there must be many honest MPs in the Liberal party, yet losing all the perks and bonuses was just too much to sacrifice for any one of them to really step forward and insist on the value of integrity and honesty.
It took a government worker, Allan Cutler, to risk losing his income and suffering abuse in order too get the truth out.
Allowing Harper a majority in the next election will give the honest Liberals the opportunity to start fresh and hopefully rebuild the Liberal Party on a basis of honesty. I have serious doubts about that being posible.
If the Libranos do squeek by with a minority, it seems logical that Canadian voters will destroy them permanently in the mess that will surely follow. 73s TG
Posted by: TonyGuitar at November 28, 2005 12:45 AM (rmMzv)
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Liberal's are liars, cheats and theives. WHen caught they deceive, distract, then lie some more. Talk about orgized criminal activity, these assholes make the MOB look like chior boys.
Posted by: Bruce Randall at November 28, 2005 08:53 AM (NGZzF)
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Tony. "If the Libranos do squeek by with a minority, it seems logical that Canadian voters will destroy them permanently in the mess that will surely follow."
Can you explain? Not sure what you mean. Maybe I'm dense this morning. Another quick election? A rebellion on the provincial level? Quebec? Alberta? If the latter then it would be Canada that was being destroyed wouldn't it?
Posted by: John Crittenden at November 28, 2005 12:35 PM (q3a5q)
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Friday probably wasn't the best day for Ralph to give this answer in the House:
Mr. Gilles Duceppe (Laurier—Sainte-Marie, BQ): Mr. Speaker, in other words, we have just been told that the economic statement, seemingly so seriously prepared, contains a $200 million mistake. Does this not smack of improvisation? We do not want to hear that, just by pure chance, $200 million too much has somehow gone missing. Might there not be some millions more, as was the case with Human Resources in 2000? Hon. members will recall that a trifling $1 billion went missing that time.
Can we count on the other figures given in the statement, when there is $200 million too much for the agreement with Ontario. Can somebody explain that to me?
Hon. Ralph Goodale (Minister of Finance, Lib.): No, Mr. Speaker.
Posted by: Eddie at November 28, 2005 12:45 PM (+81RV)
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This story is currently making the rounds. Many in the investment community are more than just raising eyebrows, which will hopefully translate into a meaningful investigation.
Earlier this year (Feb. 23) Liberal Finance Minister Ralph Goodale removed the foreign content ownership limits in RRSP's (registered retirement savings plans).
This announcement came absolutley out of nowhere and blindsided everyone. One of the instant effects of this announcement was to drive the value of the Canadian Dollar dramatically downward.
Had parties been tipped to this announcement before it happened they would have been able to profited remarkably.
To profit from the Income Trust leak one would need to take a position in specific Income Trusts.
To have had prior knowledge of the RRSP announcement one could have profited from simply buying US dollar contracts. As the Canadian dollar fell, the US contracts become worth more. There does not have to be any movement in the US currency, the falling value of the C$ adds the value to the USD contract. Money markets trade trillions of dollars.
The potential was there for parties to make Billions of dollars in days without setting off any alarms.
This new leak scandal puts the old announcement in a new perspective.
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The Abotech Affair: In French
At Le Blog de Polyscopique, we have much of the text of the West Quebec Post article on David Smith and the Abotech affair translated into French. If you have contacts in Quebec who are interested but have, of course, only had the reports in Le Droit to read in French (those reports essentially cover the same ground as the Globe and Mail articles), then send them the link so that they can get informed.
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Wow, I'm passing this one along.
Many thanks!
Posted by: JulieM at November 28, 2005 10:51 AM (CCvMb)
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The front page in the Droit this morning has Lawrence Cannon under investigation by the Mayor of the city of Gatineau due to his expenses.
Ahh yes, I forgot he used to be a Liberal.
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A negative campaign? Or dirty tricks?
Just who is Paul Martin calling?
Update #2: Retract that retraction! Maybe there is something to this after all.
UPDATE #1: Apparently this story is just so much smoke.
There is a story on Free Dominion that a Conservative MP, Gary Lunn representing the BC riding of Saanich--Gulf Islands, has been the target of a dirty trick.
I have not been able to get any confirmation of this, given that it is Sunday, and no one is in either the constituency office or the parliamentary office to answer calls.
As the Official Opposition Critic of Public Works, Lunn has been a busy man, and probably has more than a few enemies in the Liberal Party.
As I write this, there is a story that his constituents in his riding are getting calls from someone claiming to call on Gary Lunn's behalf.
During the course of conversation, the caller reveals that Gary Lunn does not support Stephen Harper.
How is it that we know? Because the caller made the mistake of calling Gary Lunn's home to deliver the message of infighting between Gary Lunn and the leadership of the Conservative Party.
Well, news of infighting inside the Conservative Party on the cusp of an election call is sure to give pause to any potential voter.
It also gave pause to Gary Lunn himself, when he himself received the call!
According to the account, Gary Lunn has reported the call to the RCMP and to the press.
We'll see if any of the major media outlets report on these shenanigans, or if the Mounties dig up anything.
Is the story true? Are the Liberals behind this? Well, I expect that if they are, they've been careful to avoid leaving any traces back to them. But then maybe they wouldn't have expected to have been caught so quickly, so who knows just how careful they were.
If they're behind this, that is. And if the story is true.
I'll try to find out more tomorrow.
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sheesh can anybody really be that stupid?!! if you're going to smear someone would you not at least have the name AND phone number?
Posted by: kelly at November 27, 2005 08:01 PM (/IrGj)
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Liberal tactics scrap the bottom of the barrel. Last week on the Dave Rutherford morning talk show CHED 630 Calgary, some French-accented nutcase phoned and stated that people who wanted to separate Quebec out of Canada were traitors and 'should be hunted down and shot'. His exact words. I wondered why the nutcase phoned a western canadian radio when the there are elected people like Gilles Duceppe who are trying to get Quebec out of Canada. Obvioulsy he doesn't want us to discuss the post-Quebec Canada.
Look it, Quebec and the Liberals have a long good run on this farce of Canadian unity BS. Many people in English Canada have called Adscam the last straw and would be more than happy to accomodate a separate Quebec. And when the story is known on the gun registery, it probably will happen. I worked in geophysics data processing in Calgary for 10 yrs. I can tell you that myself and two programmers I know, could have set the whole thing up, written from scratch. In fact the present cattle registery proves exactly my claim. $8 million to database 14 million cattle. I worked with big mainframes and little Raytheons and now my desk top. $500 million for computer hardware for guns is so far overtop it's unreal. There will be hell to pay if the Conservatives don't win this election and open all the Liberal closets.
Posted by: rocky at November 27, 2005 10:59 PM (xwGXz)
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Any chance it was one of those computerized message delivery systems that just randomly calls numbers in the phone book? If it was, then it would be entirely possible for Lunn to have received the message as well.
And if it is true, perhaps Conservative supporters will be happy for once that this country doesn't have a national do-not-call registry.
Posted by: Surecure at November 27, 2005 10:59 PM (aYppR)
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Sounds like a not-so-organized crime.
Posted by: gwgm at November 27, 2005 11:36 PM (09X8Q)
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I'm living on one of the Gulf Islands and don't really find this all that shocking. There are tons of delusional lefties here that would think they were being exceptionally clever. It doesn't seem greasy enough to be a Lieberal trick.
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